Mayweather, Jr. and Dana White Battle Again

[Technical_Skill]

Sapp did beat some top K-1 fighters, but K-1 is closer to boxing than it is to MMA rules. He is a freakshow in MMA now and just dropped out of a Cage Rage fight against a nobody two days before (he doesn't want to fight MMA anymore)

In terms of martial arts, don't give me this bull about Sholain Monks and these Chinese TMA's. You've watched Kill Bill one too many times. You are dilluisional if you think these kind of things really exist. The reason that people of Wing Chung and other TMA's are so secret about their techniques is because they don't really work. I had someone once tell me the Ming Dynasty had secret warriors that overthrew Chinggis Qan using Wing Chaun (historically impossible)

You know very little about martial arts. You are so caught up with the mystical, magical and inpractical aspects of these arts and their culture you do not see the practical applications. Most of these guys have a rank in a martial art, there are plenty of Brazilian Ju-jitsu black belts and lower ranks, Judo black belts, different forms of Karate black belts. Plus you have experts in Muay Thai, Kenny Florian (UFC fighter) actually went and trained in Thailand . Don't tell me these guys aren't martial artists because they can't look at you and knock you out.

The Gracies train plenty of the fighters you claim not to be martial artists. Some people on this forum need to do research.

LMAO, you lot are having a laugh, bet not one of you even read the link. Nope,lol.

There is a difference between a death touch, and Tai chi chuan, read the link, read up on it.

If i know little about Martial Arts, dont adress me, its very simple.

Mate i was talking about CHINESE martial arts, Ju juitsu is very westernised and thats why i didnt use it as an example, you guys are determined to support MMA against any art without actually looking at what the arts were meant for in the first place.

You think a guy who goes to the Gym and learns Martial Arts can compare to people who have it ingrained in their culture?

Westerners in General are the ones who watch too many films without ever understanding the concept of Martial Arts, which is as much one of Learning as it is fighting.

Martial arts is not learing certain moves and holds with the simple intent of hurting another guy, its alot more than that, it takes a certain person to be PROFICENT in the arts,

i can go to a Karate class and learn a few moves for a few years and get a blackbelt, so what? lol, doesnt mean im proficent in the arts lol.

You are and the other guy completely ducked the part about Martial arts as a form of well being through protection for obivous reasons, and with good reason,

I could go to a gym just like you and learn a martial art in the pseudo sense, sure, im small but in shape, sure, i did Athletics as a youth, i could probably imitate a few kicks and punches and get a few belts, but i would never try,

know why?

cos i would be kidding myself, learning Martial arts when i dont know enough about its concept and how to use it would render learning it pointless, id end up studying it to hurt people or to make up for the fact i couldnt protect myself, which leads from hurting people as self defence, to hurting people as an offense, go figure.


Seriously, there are plenty of links about Tai Chi Chuan and other fighting styles, dont tell me you guys never felt that chi-force come through your palms, i dunno if they teach you that, ANYONE can do it, through simple breathing techniques, i know this personally, anyways thats not important, and that was then.

The idea that using force is some kind of comic book myth is not true, do a search on google, there is plenty about it.

Jun Keet do or whatever its called is based on Energy transfer to the guy who somehow reckoned it wasnt, lol, which is just rediculos, he needs to go on google, i wont reply to him cos that was just a plain example of someone talking without reading my post or knowing what they are on about, mate see ya later, keep training, if you like it, good for you, i hope you do well.

But the one inch punch as a classic example of a persons ability to channel energy from his body into one solitary point, dont tell me the one inch punch is a myth, there are plenty of people who can do it.

Seriously guys, its getting tedious, go back to MMA forum and discuss this, dunno why you come to a boxing forum in some crusade to convert us, you like MMA, good for you, see ya later.

lol.

[James78]

My above post about athletes, applies to all of you dip**** ******s. (stares at Gunstar1, potatoes, and RAESAAD) Staring at dumb****s who know nothing about the art of fighting, hurts my head. You guys need to do something constructive to this world,.... like commit suicide or something close to that. And NO, I'm not kidding.

I wanna be in your list of dumbasses dip****. **** yourself loser boy.

[Technical_Skill]

Oh and just for the record to that Clown who was on here begging people not talk about this thread, then he comes back the next day with more crap talk.

1) Energy transfer from within using Chi Power is nowhere near the same as requring energy to throw a punch. ie, the energy required to move your arms back and forth lol.

2) Seriously dude, log off, and just look at that picture of yourself, for a while, a long while, when you do, you get the idea.

lol.

[Ruskie Judo]

LMAO, you lot are having a laugh, bet not one of you even read the link. Nope,lol.

There is a difference between a death touch, and Tai chi chuan, read the link, read up on it.

If i know little about Martial Arts, dont adress me, its very simple.

Mate i was talking about CHINESE martial arts, Ju juitsu is very westernised and thats why i didnt use it as an example, you guys are determined to support MMA against any art without actually looking at what the arts were meant for in the first place.

You think a guy who goes to the Gym and learns Martial Arts can compare to people who have it ingrained in their culture?

Westerners in General are the ones who watch too many films without ever understanding the concept of Martial Arts, which is as much one of Learning as it is fighting.

Martial arts is not learing certain moves and holds with the simple intent of hurting another guy, its alot more than that, it takes a certain person to be PROFICENT in the arts,

i can go to a Karate class and learn a few moves for a few years and get a blackbelt, so what? lol, doesnt mean im proficent in the arts lol.

You are and the other guy completely ducked the part about Martial arts as a form of well being through protection for obivous reasons, and with good reason,

I could go to a gym just like you and learn a martial art in the pseudo sense, sure, im small but in shape, sure, i did Athletics as a youth, i could probably imitate a few kicks and punches and get a few belts, but i would never try,

know why?

cos i would be kidding myself, learning Martial arts when i dont know enough about its concept and how to use it would render learning it pointless, id end up studying it to hurt people or to make up for the fact i couldnt protect myself, which leads from hurting people as self defence, to hurting people as an offense, go figure.


Seriously, there are plenty of links about Tai Chi Chuan and other fighting styles, dont tell me you guys never felt that chi-force come through your palms, i dunno if they teach you that, ANYONE can do it, through simple breathing techniques, i know this personally, anyways thats not important, and that was then.

The idea that using force is some kind of comic book myth is not true, do a search on google, there is plenty about it.

Jun Keet do or whatever its called is based on Energy transfer to the guy who somehow reckoned it wasnt, lol, which is just rediculos, he needs to go on google, i wont reply to him cos that was just a plain example of someone talking without reading my post or knowing what they are on about, mate see ya later, keep training, if you like it, good for you, i hope you do well.

But the one inch punch as a classic example of a persons ability to channel energy from his body into one solitary point, dont tell me the one inch punch is a myth, there are plenty of people who can do it.

Seriously guys, its getting tedious, go back to MMA forum and discuss this, dunno why you come to a boxing forum in some crusade to convert us, you like MMA, good for you, see ya later.

lol.

The reason why I just don't do a google search is because well everything you read on the internet is not true. In terms of Chinese TMA it is impossible to really get a hold on it because so much of its history has mysterious orgins. In terms of being brought up in martial arts, I used the example of a guy like Kenny Florain going and studying in Thailand. Thai boxers in Thailand do actually get brought up in a way similar to these Sholain Monks and others in Chinese TMA. MM artists have gone to study under them and instructors under Thailand have come over the US and other parts of the world to teach. You can say the Gracie's grew up in the same way and they are spread out all over the US teaching. Judoka in Japan sometimes also have a similar way of learning the art.

Jeet Kun Do is a system developed by Bruce Lee that is not reliant on channeling energy, I am not sure what you are talking about. Bruce Lee developed this system using many different forms of martial arts, including grappling arts like Judo to what he saw as making the ultimate art form. This was later in his life and if he had lived longer we may have seen it developed more. Do you consider Bruce Lee and real martial artist, because his Jeet Jun Do is generally considered to be an early form of Mixed Martial Arts and some even call Bruce Lee the father of MMA. It is not based on energy transfer, instead it is a hybrid fighting stlye that uses any thing and everything to defeat an opponent in a realistic situation.

And in terms of the so-called "one punch" what exactly are you refering to? Someone who can deliever a fatal blow? Can knock someone out ?

[Technical_Skill]

The reason why I just don't do a google search is because well everything you read on the internet is not true. In terms of Chinese TMA it is impossible to really get a hold on it because so much of its history has mysterious orgins. In terms of being brought up in martial arts, I used the example of a guy like Kenny Florain going and studying in Thailand. Thai boxers in Thailand do actually get brought up in a way similar to these Sholain Monks and others in Chinese TMA. MM artists have gone to study under them and instructors under Thailand have come over the US and other parts of the world to teach. You can say the Gracie's grew up in the same way and they are spread out all over the US teaching. Judoka in Japan sometimes also have a similar way of learning the art.

Jeet Kun Do is a system developed by Bruce Lee that is not reliant on channeling energy, I am not sure what you are talking about. Bruce Lee developed this system using many different forms of martial arts, including grappling arts like Judo to what he saw as making the ultimate art form. This was later in his life and if he had lived longer we may have seen it developed more. Do you consider Bruce Lee and real martial artist, because his Jeet Jun Do is generally considered to be an early form of Mixed Martial Arts and some even call Bruce Lee the father of MMA. It is not based on energy transfer, instead it is a hybrid fighting stlye that uses any thing and everything to defeat an opponent in a realistic situation.

And in terms of the so-called "one punch" what exactly are you refering to? Someone who can deliever a fatal blow? Can knock someone out ?

Lets make this one quick one, okay, im only replying as you were curtious.

1) Jeet Kun do concerns channelling Chi-gung or whatever it is called into the fist to get maximum power without reliance on movement, thus why these guys can hit you very hard from a standing position without even having to put their front foot forward.

2)Jeet Kun do is from Wing-Chun or something isnt it?. i think it might be, look that up, that'll explain the use of chi forces.

3) 'Not everything you read on the net is true'' : This thread is a good example lol

4) I said the guy 'Collapsed' when he was touched, but yes i have seen programs with people claiming to be able to kill with a chi-related strike, look guys can push people over without even touching them with chi power, again ask your instructor, i wont cite any links as evidence, i believe somethings in life need to be left alone and not played with, dont take my word for it, ask an instructor about Chi power and its effects.

5) No of course not everyone who can channel chi power can kill someone with one strike lol. The link explains everything, you guys havent read my posts properly and havent read the link, so not much more i can say.

good luck.

[EolGul]

Secret death touches? Energy transfer? WWWAAAAAhahahahahahaha!! AAAhhahahahahahah!!!! Those myths died 10 years ago. I'm done here. Its been interesting.

[nmuburner22]

Not sure what Floyd keeps talking about MMA, he must not realize he's giving them free publicity.

Im sure the guy in my sig and avatar would be a fuccing beast in the UFC.

[Ruskie Judo]

Lets make this one quick one, okay, im only replying as you were curtious.

1) Jeet Kun do concerns channelling Chi-gung or whatever it is called into the fist to get maximum power without reliance on movement, thus why these guys can hit you very hard from a standing position without even having to put their front foot forward.

2)Jeet Kun do is from Wing-Chun or something isnt it?. i think it might be, look that up, that'll explain the use of chi forces.

3) 'Not everything you read on the net is true'' : This thread is a good example lol

4) I said the guy 'Collapsed' when he was touched, but yes i have seen programs with people claiming to be able to kill with a chi-related strike, look guys can push people over without even touching them with chi power, again ask your instructor, i wont cite any links as evidence, i believe somethings in life need to be left alone and not played with, dont take my word for it, ask an instructor about Chi power and its effects.

5) No of course not everyone who can channel chi power can kill someone with one strike lol. The link explains everything, you guys havent read my posts properly and havent read the link, so not much more i can say.

good luck.

I actually do not think you know what Jeet Kun Do is, the point that made it so revolutionary is that it did not rely on only Chinese TMA and does not rely on channeling Ki or any of this energy nonsense. Bruce Lee instead used Western boxing stances and incorporated Western wrestling and Judo techniques to make it a complete system. The bread and butter of the this system is still Wing Chung in terms of the centerline striking and the reflexes, but this has nothing to do with Ki, I think you are confused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar1yXYOsxQk

Now this guy is an obvious fraud, but I have seen many similar around the world and they have been exposed. Ki and this mysterious energy is not the same thing as Wing Chung or Kung Fu. I think you are confused.

[Naiujiro]

@Technical_Skill
The one inch punch is not a chi based attack ****head. It combines high acceleration, a snap, follow through, and shifting of your center of mass slightly forward. Look up the dynamics of the move, ******.

Secret death touches? Energy transfer? WWWAAAAAhahahahahahaha!! AAAhhahahahahahah!!!! Those myths died 10 years ago. I'm done here. Its been interesting.

Dude, I'll join you now. This guy seems hellbent on proving people can attack with chi and ****. He's a high school student who hasn't been in any real fights. He watches too much DBZ/Naruto or some **** combined with a huge imagination. Next he'll be categorizing fighters by their power levels, and claiming people can do Kamahamehas in his world.

[Naiujiro]

I wanna be in your list of dumbasses dip****. **** yourself loser boy.

Yawn.