Mayweather, Jr. and Dana White Battle Again

[Technical_Skill]

Man, you got me typing again,.... what a *****.

Anyway, Learn what ground game is, come back, and we'll talk. Till then, you know nothing about stamina on the ground (resisting/countering/maneuvering) So there is no point to reasoning with an empty can.

Now about "Proper Martial Artists", get more specific about that word "proper". What defines "proper"?


Hell why stop at taking away the kick, why not take away the clench, knees, elbows, takedowns, and the subs? MMAers train to have more tools at their disposal, if you start taking away main tools, then obviously it will be one-sided. Besides if Boxing is superior then MMA, why worry about taking anything away?

And about the whole "2 animals rolling" comment, go suck off a horses penis to dumbass. Like I said before to hella people, learn what the hell ground game is, then start talking about. Cause right now, you are show how little you know about the subject. And right now, it's not a progressive conversation when the person you're talking to knows nothing about what you're talking about.


LOOK AT MOST OF HIS ****IN OPPONENTS! He usually has at least 50+ pounds on them. And the bastard goes into a roid rage against little asian guys. One of Sapp's fist weigh more then most of his opponent's body. It's obvious that HUGE GUY has major advantage against smaller guy.

First of all, dont throw insults at me when you look like the ******a High School Shooter.

lol.

1) You answered my point exactly, MMA guys rely on kicks to keep the other guy away from their brittle chins, take that kick away so a boxer can close the distance between him and his opponent, and that MMA guy's Jaw would turn to dust.

2) Dont ever talk to me about progresive conversation when i see you thowing insults at people, seriously you arent in a position to critcise others.

3) Who ****in cares how big Bob Sapp was, this guy had no skills and beat the greatest of all time. Thought MMA guys had skills, how come a guy who cant even kick starts knocking them out, no chin resistance, these guys love to dish it out, but they cant take it back.

4)Please look at the background of these MMA guys, see how many of them are failed american footballers who got trained in how to do a few kicks and holds.

5) To call some of these guys Martial Artists is a disgrace to Martial Arts, Martial Arts isnt just about hurting people, its about the concept of well being through protection, alot of these guys are NOT proficent in the Arts and if you took them to a real Martial Artist and they showed their logic, he would be disgusted.

Whats the difference between UFC and two guys fighting on the streets? a few kicks and holds, little else.

[HendrixLove]

Gunstar, you remind me of that old saying, "never argue with a fool, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

But I'm stubborn. Look, if it's fake, you either drop a challenge under their 'fake' rules or you are a chicken ****. Period.

Keep in mind MMA is overseen by individual states Boxing/Combative Sports Commisions. If the fights were 'fake' this would be a crime that the promoters, managers, etc could actually go to prison for. I also guess the sportsbooks at the casinos are fooled too, as they accept wagers on MMA fights.

I may be quite a **** about this, but I train with pro MMA guys. I've seen them go to the hospital after these fights with real injuries, and you have the nerve to say its fake. I actually corner for most of our gyms fighters. I am backstage for these events, there is NOTHING fake about it. Man up or shut the hell up with your bull****.

Whats so great about two unskilled guys sending each other to the hospital? What does that prove?

[Naiujiro]

'Different Kind of Stamina LMAO!

Sorry before we go any further, please explain to me the different kinds of stamina.

lol

And by the way, UFC tried to emulate boxing in every single way,

the way they do their PPV's is copying boxing

The ****** octagonal ring, is a rip off of boxing

The way they try and promote their fights, a rip off of boxing.

Mate let me tell you something, UFC is skilled to a degree, but look at the way these guy strike, and move


Zero timing

Zero Footwork

lol.

Dude, STFU. Standing stamina and ground stamina are two different types of stamina. Triangling a person on the ground is part of ground stamina. If you run out of stamina in you leg muscle trying to do that move, you will not be able you secure it. Period. Again, heed the advice of STFU, k?

[GunStar]

Gunstar, you remind me of that old saying, "never argue with a fool, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

But I'm stubborn. Look, if it's fake, you either drop a challenge under their 'fake' rules or you are a chicken ****. Period.

Keep in mind MMA is overseen by individual states Boxing/Combative Sports Commisions. If the fights were 'fake' this would be a crime that the promoters, managers, etc could actually go to prison for. I also guess the sportsbooks at the casinos are fooled too, as they accept wagers on MMA fights.

I may be quite a **** about this, but I train with pro MMA guys. I've seen them go to the hospital after these fights with real injuries, and you have the nerve to say its fake. I actually corner for most of our gyms fighters. I am backstage for these events, there is NOTHING fake about it. Man up or shut the hell up with your bull****.

I'm really getting late but OK I will reply to you BS.

First of all you can believe what you want and you don't have any ****ing right to tell me what should I believe, got it???

That is my opinion, if you have a problem with it then don't reply, got it??

BTW last time I checked don't you guys consider boxing a big part of your combat, so all you ****ers should man up and fight a regular guy with boxing rules, I guess you guys just don't want to lose to a regular joe because it will make your sport look like ****!

Dana White or any of idiot promoters reading this, get in touch with me and make a regular boxing match against your champions!

[DA1CATAS]

First of all, dont throw insults at me when you look like the ******a High School Shooter.

lol.

Whats the difference between UFC and two guys fighting on the streets? a few kicks and holds, little else.

That was wrong but funny.... and that second statement is true... like everypost I've put on page 6 about boxing.

Its too easy to see which one takes more skill. and a higher level of intelligence.

[Technical_Skill]

First of all, dont throw insults at me when you look like the ******a High School Shooter.

lol.

1) You answered my point exactly, MMA guys rely on kicks to keep the other guy away from their brittle chins, take that kick away so a boxer can close the distance between him and his opponent, and that MMA guy's Jaw would turn to dust.

2) Dont ever talk to me about progresive conversation when i see you thowing insults at people, seriously you arent in a position to critcise others.

3) Who ****in cares how big Bob Sapp was, this guy had no skills and beat the greatest of all time. Thought MMA guys had skills, how come a guy who cant even kick starts knocking them out, no chin resistance, these guys love to dish it out, but they cant take it back.

4)Please look at the background of these MMA guys, see how many of them are failed american footballers who got trained in how to do a few kicks and holds.

5) To call some of these guys Martial Artists is a disgrace to Martial Arts, Martial Arts isnt just about hurting people, its about the concept of well being through protection, alot of these guys are NOT proficent in the Arts and if you took them to a real Martial Artist and they showed their logic, he would be disgusted.

Whats the difference between UFC and two guys fighting on the streets? a few kicks and holds, little else.

Hey Mr ******a High School Shooter, read my post. lmao

[1bad65]

'Different Kind of Stamina LMAO!

Sorry before we go any further, please explain to me the different kinds of stamina.

lol

I'll try and explain, but to be honest the best way is to experience it yourself. Most BJJ schools offer a free lesson(s). Trying it would give you first hand experience. And no, I'm not challenging you.

Ok, here goes. At our gym we have a pro MMA guy who is a Black Belt in BJJ. That means he is probably in the top 1% of grapplers. He can literally do BJJ for hours at a time with guys at the gym and not even break a good sweat (he does have to break for a minute or so here and there for water), but he never gets tired. It's crazy to see this. But his standup is not very good. When he boxes, and even with the smaller guys, he usually can't go 3 full rounds even with the 1 minute break between the rounds.
Also some of the boxers at the gym will decide to do some BJJ just for fun. These guys spar for usually 4-6 rounds at a time(still young in their careers). Usually once you get on top of them and put your weight into their chest they tap out in under 1 minute or so and say 'man, I could not breathe, that ******.'

To be honest I'm one of the guys who lasts alot longer on the ground than standup. I hope this helped, but as crazy as it sounds, there really is a stamina difference.

[GunStar]

Whats so great about two unskilled guys sending each other to the hospital? What does that prove?

That is true, an MMA champion against me, but it will prove that these MMA professionals can't box!

[Naiujiro]

.....and what really makes me laugh is how they think an MMA fighter would even be able to get in on the inside of an elite boxer. Rednecks even say MMA fighters would end a boxer in a clinch, yet clinching is part of boxing and a boxer wouldn't be ****** enough to let that happen in a fight with MMA rules.

Don't laugh, you will just look more ******. Boxing clenching is worlds away from MT clenching. Period.

[1bad65]

Whats so great about two unskilled guys sending each other to the hospital? What does that prove?

That's real respectful. Since Gunstar has no balls, maybe you could go into an MMA gym and challenge someone who is 'unskilled' to a fight.