Mayweather: "De La Hoya, Just Another Opponent"

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  • El Jesus
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    #41
    Originally posted by cupcrazy01
    That would have been ideal, but it didn't happen...
    Your right, it didint, so get the **** over it and just enjoy the biggest fight this sport has seen in awhile.

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    • cupcrazy01
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      #42
      Originally posted by cortdawg25
      Me....I have actually seen him fight and beat some notable fighters, can you say the same about Margarito?
      At the time this fight would have been signed, Baldomir had scored a victory over Judah but not Gatti yet. So based on the Judah fight, which I know he won but by no means dominated, you are saying Baldy had a better resume than Margarito? What about Baldy was so much more impressive than what Margarito did to Cintron? Yes, Judah is better than Cintron, but they are not worlds apart and you have to take into account the fashion by which each won those fights.

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      • cupcrazy01
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        #43
        Originally posted by Black Jesus
        Your right, it didint, so get the **** over it and just enjoy the biggest fight this sport has seen in awhile.
        Come on, I am "over it", I am just presenting an argument.
        I will enjoy the fight, as I hope you will too.

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        • cortdawg25
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          #44
          Originally posted by cupcrazy01
          You stated exactly what Floyd did: took an easy fight with a big reward for big money. My argument is that he took an EASIER fight BECAUSE it posed less risk and it could be defended because it yielded a legit championship.

          With Margarito it would have been a tougher fight for big money but nobody would be accusing him of running from the tougher opponents anymore. He blew that chance, and now the anti-PBF faction is in full force, a la the RJJ critics.

          Also, after taking the perceived "tougher" fight with Margarito, nobody would criticize him for taking a Baldomir fight afterward. He could have done it in the interim between the Judah and Baldomir fights (April 8 vs. Judah, November 4 vs. Baldomir), so the DLH fight would still be available for next month. That would have been ideal, but it didn't happen...
          CUPCRAZY, no matter what they will criticize and find something to complain about. let me give you an example, when he fought Zab and everyone knew that was the tougher fight and he got criticized for it. A few months later, he goes for the true WW champ and he gets criticized for that. Now tell me how can you really criticize a fighter for fighting the champ of the divison. Also he hurt his hand in Judah fight, that is why he couldn't fight Aug so squeezing margarito between wasn't feasible. But for arguments sake, lets say he did fight Margarito, they would still say why is Floyd fighting all these tune-ups and nobodies. Everytime he fights he is fighting a nobody if you listen to some of the people here. Let them tell it and he has never fought anybody and Oscar is only worthy fighter on his resume.

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          • Ether
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            #45
            Lol @ everyone getting mad when mayweather talks ****, the dude backs up his fight talk..i just doubt he will win this fight..it's 50/50.

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            • Cuauhtémoc1520
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              #46
              Originally posted by Black Jesus
              In all honesty im going to have to agree, Ali is idolized now, but he was constantly ripped in media, newspapers, newsmedia and everything. Alot of people here cling to the past, "oh it was better when this happened" when they have very little knowledge of the political climate and interaction of different races/cultures of that time.


              Many people here are so extreme about what fighters say. Edison Miranda gives some bull**** speech about taylor/miranda and people hang onto his every word. Mayweather as well, people just hang onto his every word, hes obviously doing this **** to sell the fight, and the more people who hate him, the more people who will wanna see him get KO'ed.

              And even worse is how you people link trash talk in a press conference to his actual personality and link that to why you dont like him or dont respect him etc. The comment about Tyson couldnt be any more true, Tyson is an all around **** up and a premier trash talker, yet everyone loves him for one reason, he knocked people the **** out. Mayweather much like my youth idol Pernell Whitaker outclasses fighters in such a fashion that people cant stand it.

              Nothing is worse than a trash talking son of a ***** who makes his opponents look like they never belonged in the same ring as him. Whitaker was hated, Tyson was hated, Ali was hated, Roy Jones was hated, James Toney is definately ****in hated. Its just how it is.

              Alot of your favorite fighters dont even belong in the same ****in ring as mayweather, and the one fight you all cling to (JLC 1) was rematched and taken care of and i honestly think you guys just cant stand Mayweather the same way i cant stand the Patriots. I just hate their winning ways.
              You know , have to give it to you, that was a good post. I admited in my last post I don't like Mayweather and would love to see him lose. I also said I understand very much the hype in pro boxing and don't hang on every word some fighter says at a press conference. I just don't like Mayweathers uncle, father and him.

              As far as Ali was concerned, WHITE America hated Ali. Blacks in the US LOVED him so he wasn't hated by the people. He was adored when he went to Africa and was adored by the PEOPLE in the US. The media portrade him as a villian and a racist but the only racist was the media itself. If you were black and out spoken you were hated, you had to be a good little "uncle tom" to be liked. Ali was never ill willed with his opponents, always talking trash but afterwards giving them there due. I have rarely if ever heard Mayweather give anyone their due but come May 5th he will be forced to for the first time in his career.

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                #47
                Originally posted by cupcrazy01
                (1) A career-high payday. Arum guaranteed $8 million. Despite what Team PBF will tell you, there's no way he made that much for Baldy. I'm not saying Bob Arum is a beacon of integrity, but I do believe he was willing to offer a career-high payday...
                You are a complete idiot if you don't think PBF made $8 million for the Baldomir fight. The fight did 325k buys. At $50 a buy, that's over $16 million. That's enough to pay Floyd, Baldomir, and leaves at least $6 million. That's just PPV. That doesn't include the live gate, which would only add a few million more to the total...

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                • deliveryman
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                  I know what a thug is believe me and I also understand what promotion in the game of boxing is. But I also see classy and trashy and understand the difference. Ali talked trash so did Leonard but they did not dissrespect themselves or the sport. Naseem talked trash as did Camacho and it was much different. The way Mayorga talked to DLH was mad dissrepectful, theres a difference.

                  Maybe your right , I just don't like Mayweather and thats the root of my beef with him. I still say he's an ass and acts like a 10 year old.

                  Oh and by the way , I live in Miami, I know what "making it rain" means in strip clubs, we have the best of the best here in South Fla, ever heard of South Beach? Im no square dude that doesn't go out and have fun but damn get over yourself a little Mayweather and if your gonna talk trash do it with charisma, I just dont see it.
                  So please tell me the difference between Ali calling Frazier an ugly Gorilla, and Floyd calling Oscar the "Golden Girl".

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                  • !! $iN
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by cupcrazy01
                    You stated exactly what Floyd did: took an easy fight with a big reward for big money. My argument is that he took an EASIER fight BECAUSE it posed less risk and it could be defended because it yielded a legit championship.
                    So you think Floyd should have avoided the champion in order to fight what really amounts to a contender just because the contender is considered the more difficult fight?

                    By your reasoning, Joe Louis is a ***** for fighting Braddock to win the title because Braddock's win over Baer was a huge upset just like Baldomir's win over Judah. Everyone knew Braddock was going to get his ass kicked the next time he fought and that's why he held up the title for nearly 2 years until cashed out in the Joe Louis fight. Exact same thing Baldomir did. He held out for the biggest paycheck, which was first Gatti and then Mayweather.

                    If you think less of Mayweather for the choice that he made, which is just your opinion because Baldomir is more accomplished than Margarito (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh....php?t=104590), then you should think the same way about Joe Louis...

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                    • eazy_mas
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                      #50
                      truthfully guy Mayweather never underestimated anyone of his oppenet unlike other fighter including you loving Oscar did couple of time.

                      you could know from his training and stamina in the fight he rarely off his game even when he is stuned.

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