Mayweather: "De La Hoya, Just Another Opponent"

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  • El Jesus
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    #31
    Originally posted by $iN
    These idiots just don't realize that Ali was one of the most hated fighters ever until he dodged the draft. Only Jack Johnson was more hated than Ali prior to his suspension and that was only due to his skin color...
    In all honesty im going to have to agree, Ali is idolized now, but he was constantly ripped in media, newspapers, newsmedia and everything. Alot of people here cling to the past, "oh it was better when this happened" when they have very little knowledge of the political climate and interaction of different races/cultures of that time.


    Many people here are so extreme about what fighters say. Edison Miranda gives some bull**** speech about taylor/miranda and people hang onto his every word. Mayweather as well, people just hang onto his every word, hes obviously doing this **** to sell the fight, and the more people who hate him, the more people who will wanna see him get KO'ed.

    And even worse is how you people link trash talk in a press conference to his actual personality and link that to why you dont like him or dont respect him etc. The comment about Tyson couldnt be any more true, Tyson is an all around **** up and a premier trash talker, yet everyone loves him for one reason, he knocked people the **** out. Mayweather much like my youth idol Pernell Whitaker outclasses fighters in such a fashion that people cant stand it.

    Nothing is worse than a trash talking son of a ***** who makes his opponents look like they never belonged in the same ring as him. Whitaker was hated, Tyson was hated, Ali was hated, Roy Jones was hated, James Toney is definately ****in hated. Its just how it is.

    Alot of your favorite fighters dont even belong in the same ****in ring as mayweather, and the one fight you all cling to (JLC 1) was rematched and taken care of and i honestly think you guys just cant stand Mayweather the same way i cant stand the Patriots. I just hate their winning ways.

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    • El Jesus
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      #32
      Originally posted by cupcrazy01
      OK, first off, if he sees the "mediocreness" in Margarito, why not take the huge cash for such easy work?!? No PBF fan has EVER answered this. If this is true, with the way Floyd stays in shape, he'd hardly even have to train! And with how much he loves money, I just can't believe he wouldn't take such an "easy fight" for such big money.

      Margarito is not a journeyman...sorry. That's just wrong. He is a long-reigning welterweight champion (since 2002, with 7 successful defenses)...what other journeymen can claim anything close to that?
      So that he can be critisized for not fighting the TRUE WW Champ Baldomir? So that he wont be accused of picking his fights and just taking on a guy he knew was slow, wild swinging, bad footwork and lost to ****ing RODNEY JONES? If Margarito was the true WW champion that fight would make sense, BUT HE WASNT, Margarito doesnt belong in the same ****in ring as mayweather.

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      • Technical_Skill
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        #33
        Originally posted by cupcrazy01
        OK, first off, if he sees the "mediocreness" in Margarito, why not take the huge cash for such easy work?!? No PBF fan has EVER answered this.

        I will answer this.

        If PBF ''took the huge cash for easy work''

        You know what you would do?

        Criticise him for taking huge cash for easy work.

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        • cortdawg25
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          #34
          Originally posted by cupcrazy01
          OK, first off, if he sees the "mediocreness" in Margarito, why not take the huge cash for such easy work?!? No PBF fan has EVER answered this. If this is true, with the way Floyd stays in shape, he'd hardly even have to train! And with how much he loves money, I just can't believe he wouldn't take such an "easy fight" for such big money.

          Margarito is not a journeyman...sorry. That's just wrong. He is a long-reigning welterweight champion (since 2002, with 7 successful defenses)...what other journeymen can claim anything close to that?
          he did take the cash for easy work and got recognized as the true WW champ in the process. 2 birds 1 stone. Why fight margarito and Baldmir if you don't have to? And he is a journeyman, he won that belt in 02 which was vacant, he never took it from the champion and he defended it against the lowests ranked fighters in the WW division. That all says journey man to me and at best titleholder. He is no champion.

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          • Soundtraveler
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            #35
            Mayweather is in for a beating from DeLaHoya, he is about to get in the ring with a fighter who is bigger, stronger, and one that punches harder than anyone he has ever faced before. DeLaHoya has made a career out of beating the tar out of trash talkers and he will KO Mayweather late in the fight, I say Oscar by KO Round 10....

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            • cupcrazy01
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              #36
              Originally posted by Technical_Skill
              I will answer this.

              If PBF ''took the huge cash for easy work''

              You know what you would do?

              Criticise him for taking huge cash for easy work.
              Um, no, because people were calling him to fight Margarito...so unless they want to be complete hypocrits, they could not criticize him at all. And I wouldn't have, btw, I do think PBF would beat Margarito and fairly easily. But it would have been a much better fight than the Baldy snoozefest.

              This isn't about what I think would have happened.

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              • cupcrazy01
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                #37
                Originally posted by Black Jesus
                So that he can be critisized for not fighting the TRUE WW Champ Baldomir? So that he wont be accused of picking his fights and just taking on a guy he knew was slow, wild swinging, bad footwork and lost to ****ing RODNEY JONES? If Margarito was the true WW champion that fight would make sense, BUT HE WASNT, Margarito doesnt belong in the same ****in ring as mayweather.
                AGAIN, there is NOBODY who knows boxing who would have accused Floyd of ducking Baldomir if he would have taken the Margarito fight. Who do you know that thought Baldomir was better and a bigger threat than Margarito?

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                • cortdawg25
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by cupcrazy01
                  AGAIN, there is NOBODY who knows boxing who would have accused Floyd of ducking Baldomir if he would have taken the Margarito fight. Who do you know that thought Baldomir was better and a bigger threat than Margarito?
                  Me....I have actually seen him fight and beat some notable fighters, can you say the same about Margarito?

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                  • El Jesus
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by cupcrazy01
                    AGAIN, there is NOBODY who knows boxing who would have accused Floyd of ducking Baldomir if he would have taken the Margarito fight. Who do you know that thought Baldomir was better and a bigger threat than Margarito?
                    People were accusing floyd of ducking Baldomir when he fought Zab who is better than Margarito anyway. Then he fought Baldomir next so that would win the REAL CHAMPIONSHIP not some piece of **** WBO belt that Margarito won for a VACANT championship, since of course, Daniel Santos stood in the way of the other title he went after. Nobody ****in cares about Margarito at this point except morons who insist that somehow a guy who lost to RODNEY JONES is a threat to the number 1 p4p.

                    Floyd had a choice, 8 million for Margarito, or 8 Million for BALDOMIR AND The TRUE WW championship. I think we both know logically which one does more for his career and those arguments against Brian Kenny who constantly accuses floyd of not winning the real championship at 140 and 147 (before the baldomir fight)

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                    • cupcrazy01
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by cortdawg25
                      he did take the cash for easy work and got recognized as the true WW champ in the process. 2 birds 1 stone. Why fight margarito and Baldmir if you don't have to? And he is a journeyman, he won that belt in 02 which was vacant, he never took it from the champion and he defended it against the lowests ranked fighters in the WW division. That all says journey man to me and at best titleholder. He is no champion.
                      You stated exactly what Floyd did: took an easy fight with a big reward for big money. My argument is that he took an EASIER fight BECAUSE it posed less risk and it could be defended because it yielded a legit championship.

                      With Margarito it would have been a tougher fight for big money but nobody would be accusing him of running from the tougher opponents anymore. He blew that chance, and now the anti-PBF faction is in full force, a la the RJJ critics.

                      Also, after taking the perceived "tougher" fight with Margarito, nobody would criticize him for taking a Baldomir fight afterward. He could have done it in the interim between the Judah and Baldomir fights (April 8 vs. Judah, November 4 vs. Baldomir), so the DLH fight would still be available for next month. That would have been ideal, but it didn't happen...

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