Would Margarito be a bigger challenge for Miguel Cotto?

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  • ml2niceguy
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    #51
    hopefully margarito fights the winner of the bout

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    • TheBlackWallStreet
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      #52
      Originally posted by ml2niceguy
      hopefully margarito fights the winner of the bout
      He won't because Williams is gonna whoop his ass.

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        #53
        Originally posted by guru
        zab has only beaten one good opponent his entire career and that was spinks, who is feather fisted and he had to fight him twice to do it...
        And that's still a better win than anything Margarito has done in his entire career...

        As far as Cotto is concerned, I think Margarito would be the tougher opponent. Cotto is too physical for Judah. Judah will eventually crumble to the body shots and Judah will have trouble running because Cotto cuts off the ring so well.

        Margarito isn't that great, but he can take whatever Cotto dishes out and give it right back. I think a fighter who is willing to go toe-to-toe with Cotto has the best shot of beating him.

        I would pick Judah to beat Margarito easily, though. Margarito can't beat slick southpaws.

        Styles makes fights...

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        • Del Coqui
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          #54
          Originally posted by Technical_Skill
          Ok, im gonna have to repeat myself again here, bet it wont be the last time either.

          Sigh.

          1) You said ''I dont see the point in comparing resumes'' : But now you are comparing Judah and Margarito's resume, not for the first time you have contradicted yourself

          do i have to repeat that again?

          Just incase....

          You said ''I dont see the point in comparing resumes'' : But now you are comparing Judah and Margarito resume, not for the first time you have contradicted yourself.

          2) I have answered your question multiple times, No a come forward fighter with no skills, no footwork, wide punches, and a poor defense cannot beat Miguel Cotto

          Comprende?

          3) A come forward fighter with no skills, no footwork, wide punches, and a poor defense does not have more chance against Cotto than a slick, speedy, powerful southpaw who was the undisputed world welterweight champion.

          4) How can you say Margarito can take cotto's shots, or even imply that, when Margarito aint been in with a guy in the class of Miguel Cotto? Or is Cintron and randall in Cotto's class?

          5) Maragrito does well against fighters who cut off the ring like Cotto? lol.
          Who?

          ****in Frankie Randall?

          That Sebastian Lujan bum?

          Clottey?

          Or did he get smacked about until Clottey broke his hand?

          lol

          Hope this finally clarifies things for you.
          1)you can not compare resumes when there's nothing that resembles the fight ahead which is the TOPIC of this discussion...

          2)Still haven't answered the question, not sure why you keep avoiding it, does a pressure fighter who comes forward throwing bombs and can take Cotto's punches have the better chance of beating him? Hope we can get a response this time and not turn it to Margarito, not mentioning any names, just styles.

          3)Slick speedy south paws as you mention stand a chance against Cotto on the long run.... One who fades and breaks down mentally and physically will likely get KOd.

          4)If you're implying Margarito hasn't proven he has an iron chin..... I'm not even gonna answer that one...

          5)Watch their fights, remember, AGAIN, we're not discussing who fought (even if lost) the better competition between Margo and Judah, we're looking for styles that might resemble Cotto's (next time I need to write this one down for you I'll make sure I use coloring)...

          LMAO!!!

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          • Technical_Skill
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            #55
            Originally posted by gerardofpr
            1)you can not compare resumes when there's nothing that resembles the fight ahead which is the TOPIC of this discussion...

            2)Still haven't answered the question, not sure why you keep avoiding it, does a pressure fighter who comes forward throwing bombs and can take Cotto's punches have the better chance of beating him? Hope we can get a response this time and not turn it to Margarito, not mentioning any names, just styles.

            3)Slick speedy south paws as you mention stand a chance against Cotto on the long run.... One who fades and breaks down mentally and physically will likely get KOd.

            4)If you're implying Margarito hasn't proven he has an iron chin..... I'm not even gonna answer that one...

            5)Watch their fights, remember, AGAIN, we're not discussing who fought (even if lost) the better competition between Margo and Judah, we're looking for styles that might resemble Cotto's (next time I need to write this one down for you I'll make sure I use coloring)...

            LMAO!!!
            Why are you laughin? you still aint making sense.

            1) Here's what you just said:

            ''you can not compare resumes when there's nothing that resembles the fight ahead which is the TOPIC of this discussion...''

            SO WHY ARE YOU COMPARING JUDAH'S RESUME TO MARGARITO? ARE THEY FIGHTING, NO!

            Phew, done that one.

            Next.

            2) NO!

            ''a pressure fighter who comes forward throwing bombs and can take Cotto's punches''

            DOES NOT HAVE MORE CHANCE AGAINST A SLICK, SPEEDY SOUTHPAW WITH POWER.

            3) HOW DO YOU KNOW MARGARITO CAN TAKE COTTO'S PUNCHES WHEN HE HASNT FOUGHT ONE FIGHTER TO SUGGEST THAT HE CAN?

            4) HOW DOES FIGHTING FRANKIE RANDALL, KERMIT CINTRON AND JOSH CLOTTEY PROVE YOU HAVE AN IRON CHIN? LOL.

            the sad thing is, he still won't understand.

            lol.

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            • !optimusprime!
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              #56
              Originally posted by Kaynan
              Again, with the "Zab can't endure deep waters" phenomenon.

              Did you ever notice that some of Judah's fights have (gasp) gone beyond a KO limit? Amazingly, he has a few UD's and has finished more than a few fights convincingly. It's not his best fights that I'm citing. It's most of his fights.
              ohh god you are the biggest zab nuthugger................give it up.

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              • Del Coqui
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                #57
                Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                Why are you laughin? you still aint making sense.

                1) Here's what you just said:

                ''you can not compare resumes when there's nothing that resembles the fight ahead which is the TOPIC of this discussion...''

                SO WHY ARE YOU COMPARING JUDAH'S RESUME TO MARGARITO? ARE THEY FIGHTING, NO!

                Phew, done that one.

                Next.

                2) NO!

                ''a pressure fighter who comes forward throwing bombs and can take Cotto's punches''

                DOES NOT HAVE MORE CHANCE AGAINST A SLICK, SPEEDY SOUTHPAW WITH POWER.

                3) HOW DO YOU KNOW MARGARITO CAN TAKE COTTO'S PUNCHES WHEN HE HASNT FOUGHT ONE FIGHTER TO SUGGEST THAT HE CAN?

                4) HOW DOES FIGHTING FRANKIE RANDALL, KERMIT CINTRON AND JOSH CLOTTEY PROVE YOU HAVE AN IRON CHIN? LOL.

                the sad thing is, he still won't understand.

                lol.

                My bad... I should've taken a more elemental approach. Here you go mate...

                1)Not comparing their resumes, just stating who has a better chance comparing those who resemble Cotto style...

                2)You showed earlier you don't know Margarito's fights, now you show you don't know Cotto....

                3)No one can know for sure if Margarito could take Cotto's punches, but when you look at who has done better against punchers, its obvious...

                4)Fighting those guys doesn't prove you have an iron chin, it just states good punchers (which they're/were) weren't able to hurt you. Where as Cory Spinks was able to hurt Judah, so was Baldy, Mayweather... And a bunch of other guys who are not known for their power!

                LOL!!!

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                • Technical_Skill
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by gerardofpr
                  Hmmm, let me understand your logic, you mean Cotto will have a similar style to PBF through out the first four rounds on his fight against Zab? Are you saying that since Margarito haven't had the same level of opposition Zab has had, Zab will do better, considering Zab has lost every big fight he's ever been in except Spinks 2? Is that what you meant?
                  Dont tell me you didn't compare resumes when the above shows that you did.

                  The rest of your points are more crying and whining

                  ''you dont know about cotto'' etc, lol.

                  You keep repeating the same old nonsensical, non logical posts,

                  quite ironic that you had to colour your own arguements and still couldnt see the logic in them.

                  lol.

                  Seriously, your not reading what im saying, your just going over old ground.

                  Dude i never knew the ''copy'' and ''paste'' buttons could talk back to me.... until today.

                  LOL.

                  Adios and Good luck.
                  Last edited by Technical_Skill; 04-17-2007, 11:54 AM.

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                  • Technical_Skill
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by gerardofpr

                    3)No one can know for sure if Margarito could take Cotto's punches,
                    By the way even here you have contradicted yourself.....again.

                    Cos that's not what you were saying earlier.

                    lol.

                    Please dont reply,

                    just re-read what your writing before you press the ''reply'' button like a 4 year old who drank too much Pepsi.
                    Last edited by Technical_Skill; 04-17-2007, 12:00 PM.

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                    • Del Coqui
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                      Dont tell me you didn't compare resumes when the above shows that you did.

                      The rest of your points are more crying and whining

                      ''you dont know about cotto'' etc, lol.

                      You keep repeating the same old nonsensical, non logical posts,

                      quite ironic that you had to colour your own arguements and still couldnt see the logic in them.

                      lol.

                      Seriously, your not reading what im saying, your just going over old ground.

                      Dude i never knew the ''copy'' and ''paste'' buttons could talk back to me.... until today.

                      LOL.

                      Adios and Good luck.
                      I didn't compare their records, what's at stake is who can do better against Cotto. If you can't see the difference, sorry I ran out of colors man. "Crying and whining", hmmm don't be so sensitive, just arguing about who could do better according to fighters they both fought in the past who may have a style similar to Cotto's, isn't that what its all about, style matchups? You have a wrong concept believing the one who fought the tougher opposition has the upper hand, well not necessarily, it all depends on who the opposition was, what their style was and what Zab got out of those fights. That's all I'm saying. "Comprende?", si supiera que hablabas Español te lo hubiese explicado en mi lenguaje natal de una vez y por todas a ver si logras captar algo.

                      LMAO!!!!
                      Last edited by Del Coqui; 04-17-2007, 12:39 PM.

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