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  • The Wire
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    #11
    To be fair, I think $5 mil might be a fairer offer. The reason this fight won't happen is cos Taylor's fighting Spinks far too soon before the proposed date for this. It's a waste of time talking about it cos it's never gonna happen and Warren knows it's not gonna happen.

    Also, Warren probably didnt offer Taylor $4million. He probably offered him 2 and told us all he offered 4. Cos he's a ****.

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    • New Life 79
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      #12
      What a pathetic world will live in really. Ohhh !!! I´m the star, i need more then 3-4 millions for a fight like that, the light has to be on me !!!

      Really Joe should have left Warren years ago and packed his bag to fight in USA, but now its to late. However i can understand that Taylor doesnt want to fight Joe, simply because he would lose. And lose bad.

      However Kessler is the man Joe should fight, the can stop all the talking and agree to fight in the fall. Stage the fight in a neutral place, if it has to come to that. But make the damn fight !

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      • PunchDrunk
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        #13
        Originally posted by The Wire
        To be fair, I think $5 mil might be a fairer offer. The reason this fight won't happen is cos Taylor's fighting Spinks far too soon before the proposed date for this. It's a waste of time talking about it cos it's never gonna happen and Warren knows it's not gonna happen.

        Also, Warren probably didnt offer Taylor $4million. He probably offered him 2 and told us all he offered 4. Cos he's a ****.
        Warren also claimed to have offered Kessler $3 million, when in reality it was 1.75.

        I agree that Warren is putting out offers he knows these guys won't take, so he can fight another bum in front of 35.000 people in Wales.

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        • The Wire
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          #14
          And this time I won't be one of those 35,000.

          I've never been so angry leaving a boxing match, not even after Hatton/Pederson (he was meant to fight Pinto for ****'s sake) or after Witter/Kotelnik (blatant robbery and one boring ****in fight)

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          • SHB
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            #15
            Originally posted by PunchDrunk
            Warren also claimed to have offered Kessler $3 million, when in reality it was 1.75.

            I agree that Warren is putting out offers he knows these guys won't take, so he can fight another bum in front of 35.000 people in Wales.
            Now, that's simply not true. He said "multi-million dollar" offer for Kessler, which it was. I despise Warren as much as the next man but lets call it as it is.

            Given that Taylor earned $4.6m for the Wright fight, anything around that ballpark is a decent offer for a Calzaghe fight. If Taylor feels he can earn more from fighting road sweepers in Arkensas then fair enough.

            I don't understand some of the posts in this thread. Boxing is either a business or it isn't. How Calzaghe can be criticised in one breadth for maximising his income by fighting on home turf whilst another boxer is praised for the same thing or isn't criticised in the same manner is quite baffling.

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            • deuce_drop
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              #16
              i'm curious to why warren doens't try and focus on the PPV's, all you hear him talk about is how many people he can cram into a place for a fight. while the king, arum, GBP, all go for the PPV, aka the world wide audience.


              which is going to line you pockets more? 35000 in attendance or 250000-300000+ in PPV world wide???? hhhmmm?? not sure warren is the best business man out there. i'm not saying he doesnt' excel in some areas but the numbers speak in large volume and they speak for themselves..........

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              • SHB
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                #17
                Originally posted by deuce_drop
                i'm curious to why warren doens't try and focus on the PPV's, all you hear him talk about is how many people he can cram into a place for a fight. while the king, arum, GBP, all go for the PPV, aka the world wide audience.


                which is going to line you pockets more? 35000 in attendance or 250000-300000+ in PPV world wide???? hhhmmm?? not sure warren is the best business man out there. i'm not saying he doesnt' excel in some areas but the numbers speak in large volume and they speak for themselves..........
                I'm guessing that is because Warren has a television contract with a free-to-air terrestrial broadcaster in the UK.

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                • .Mik.
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PunchDrunk
                  LIARHAYES claimed he made $2.5 million for the three Hopkins/Winky fights combined. That isn't true, because he made $4.6 million for the Winky fight ALONE. Get it?
                  Of course I 'get it?'. I was just looking at the bigger picture. To me, if Taylor is accepting $4.6m all in to fight Winky, then if he doesnt accept a similar offer against Calzaghe, its him thats to blame and not Calzaghe.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Miksterious
                    Of course I 'get it?'. I was just looking at the bigger picture. To me, if Taylor is accepting $4.6m all in to fight Winky, then if he doesnt accept a similar offer against Calzaghe, its him thats to blame and not Calzaghe.
                    You're so full of ****!

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                    • .Mik.
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                      #20
                      Very well then. Explain to me the faults in this very simple statement.

                      If Taylor accepted $4.6m to fight Winky Wright and Frank Warren offers him a similar amount to fight Joe Calzaghe, and Taylor refuses that without opening any negotiations or making any requests. Then it is not Calzaghe's fault, its Taylors.

                      That is all I've said on the subject, so how can it be deemed full of ****? I'd rather see the fight in USA and I think that'd be a fair negotiation point for Taylor. I also think that he should negotiate for the date. I also think that there may be more money in the fight and that should be a point for negotiation. But I see NO negotiation coming back in return as being a bad indication of Taylor and his camps' unwillingness to fight Calzaghe...until it happens.

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