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  • #21
    As I said...time will tell.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by crold1 View Post
      Not at all. Parra blew out his knee and couldn't make weight anymore but still had to fight because he hadn't had a paystub in 15 months. Manny got blown in three on similar grounds to lose his 112 strap. It happens. Parra, from Morel to Asloum, was on a brilliant run and may have a great run left in him at 115 or 118. Floy'd ranking when I had Parra #2 was based on the abominable 03-05 run he had. When he stepped up last year, he moved back up in my mind. Talent needs testing.
      He had a good run against ****ty opposition and you put him at number 2 on your p4p list.
      I think its pretty clear your clueless.

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      • #23
        Pac man above Mayweather LMAO, Pac man TKO's an old warrior and gets all this recognition that's a joke he deserves too be in the top 10 but not at #1. Kessler hasnt done enough too be in the top 10, and your commenting about he has only a few less fight than Joe... JOE'S DEFENDED HIS TITTLE 19 TIMES! That list is a biased list

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        • #24
          19 WBO defenses against who? How many quality wins on there? About the same number of quality wins as Kessler has and all of Kessler's are much more recent. P4P isn't a title won and lost in the ring. It's a question of who one thinks have proven to be the ten best fighters in the world at any given time.

          And Parra was not in against bad opp. That's ignorant (but you probably haven't seen any of those fights). I find it hilarious that conventional thinking is so ingrained in so many. If I'm clueless, why bother with me?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by crold1 View Post
            19 WBO defenses against who? How many quality wins on there? About the same number of quality wins as Kessler has and all of Kessler's are much more recent. P4P isn't a title won and lost in the ring. It's a question of who one thinks have proven to be the ten best fighters in the world at any given time.

            And Parra was not in against bad opp. That's ignorant (but you probably haven't seen any of those fights). I find it hilarious that conventional thinking is so ingrained in so many. If I'm clueless, why bother with me?
            Floyd has faced 12 world champs.
            More than any active fighter except MAB.
            So, your totally wrong.

            And im not "bothering" with you. Im pointing out how totally and utterly clueless you are when it comes to the sport of boxing.
            Its quite funny.
            But also a bit sad.

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            • #26
              Kessler ahead of Rafael Marquez is bold. Marquez hasn't lost in 6 years or so, he has beaten 3 top level fighters, and he was the man at bantamweight with the IBF title.

              The knock on Rafa all of these years was that he was too comfortable beating mandatories and that he'd never move up and fight the best. Guess what? He just beat the best fighter in the next weight class...still doesn't get the love he deserves. Rafa has gotten better and better as the years have gone on and he is one of the hardest punchers in the sport. I have no doubts that he should be ranked right up there with the best in the sport in Floyd, Pacquiao, and Wright.

              Marquez has stopped all but like...one or two of the fighters he has faced in the past 7 years. With names like Mark Johnson, Israel Vazquez, Mauro Pastrana, and Tim Austin in that list, I'd say that's pretty impressive.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Kball15 View Post
                i didnt read what u wrote, but NOOO way does Kessler deserve to be in the top 20, 30, or even 40 p4p. He isnt good. hes so ordinary. When he takes a good step up in comp, he gets destroyed.

                Manfredo and Mora are better then this guy.

                When and IF kessler gets in with Calzage, HE GETS STOPPED!!!!
                Thats a bold statement. What have you seen in his fights that gave you that idea? I think Kessler is a good fighter, but he doesnt deserve to be on the p4p list yet. Anybody on the p4p list needs to have a big win, and he doesnt.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Kball15 View Post
                  i didnt read what u wrote, but NOOO way does Kessler deserve to be in the top 20, 30, or even 40 p4p. He isnt good. hes so ordinary. When he takes a good step up in comp, he gets destroyed.

                  Manfredo and Mora are better then this guy.

                  When and IF kessler gets in with Calzage, HE GETS STOPPED!!!!
                  someone has been watching the Contender a bit too much

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                  • #29
                    This thread is absolute bollocks.

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                    • #30
                      Is this a joke?

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