Do you think Joe Calzaghe is ducking Kessler??

[.Mik.]

Yeah! Manfredo is a lethal fighter. Devastating.

I'm getting genuinely bored of telling the same things over and over to people who has no common sense or ability to think logically. Manfredo = American Draw. Calzaghe = Legitimate fighter. Calzaghe NEEDS American exposure because without it, he does not represent big enough money to make a fight against the people he WANTS (Hopkins, Wright, Taylor etc) a worthwhile risk for them.

Wait until after the Manfredo fight. If he doesnt pick a high-profile fight after that, I'll be as disappointed as you.

So you're telling me that suddenly, after Lacy, his choice in opponents is going to differ drastically? I mean, he is not a new fighter. The guy is going to be running towards the end of his career soon....and all indications thus far say he's a good fighter who is content fighting limited opposition. I mean, sure, Lacy was undefeated- but that really spells untested. Calzaghe's follow up fight was against a contender reject? What..? Where is the logic in that? Sakio Bika and now this? He's falling right back into his routine of picking fringe contenders to dismantle.

Surely the fact that Calzaghe is coming to the last few years of his career represents a fairly obvious reasoning as to why Calzaghe is now looking for the big fights?

[Njord777]

I'm getting genuinely bored of telling the same things over and over to people who has no common sense or ability to think logically. Manfredo = American Draw. Calzaghe = Legitimate fighter. Calzaghe NEEDS American exposure because without it, he does not represent big enough money to make a fight against the people he WANTS (Hopkins, Wright, Taylor etc) a worthwhile risk for them.

Wait until after the Manfredo fight. If he doesnt pick a high-profile fight after that, I'll be as disappointed as you.



Surely the fact that Calzaghe is coming to the last few years of his career represents a fairly obvious reasoning as to why Calzaghe is now looking for the big fights?

Manfredo is not an American draw. Not at all. He was in one television show here and that was it. You'd be hard pressed to make his fight against any American champion a PPV event. He's a nobody here. Don't justify his fight against Mandfredo by saying it's a solid American opponent to gain exposure with. This board is full of the American boxing public- and what are we saying about Calzaghe-Manfredo? 90% of us are calling it a joke. Where does the casual fan who doesn't watch boxing in this country get their opions? Us. The fans, writers and news reporters of the sport...who see this as an easy fight for Joe. So....no.

[K-Nine]

Jebus, he’s already beat Eubank, Lacy, Brewer, Mitchell, Veit, Sheika, Woodhall and Reid, (6 of the 8 were in their “primes” to, yes including Mitchell, oh did I mention 4 of those were considered the absolute best at the division at one time or another).

His record is great as it is, Nard or Taylor would just be icing on the cake.

Kessler on the other hand looked **** against "China Chinned" Mundine, get off his nuts already.

GTFOutta here.

Reid was not an impressive win. Lacy was just unmasked as a number one pretender. Sheika was a legitimate win. But it's Omar Sheika- the divisions underacheiver. Do I need to say anything about Eubank?

The rest are legit wins, though.

[.Mik.]

Manfredo is not an American draw. Not at all. He was in one television show here and that was it. You'd be hard pressed to make his fight against any American champion a PPV event. He's a nobody here. Don't justify his fight against Mandfredo by saying it's a solid American opponent to gain exposure with. This board is full of the American boxing public- and what are we saying about Calzaghe-Manfredo? 90% of us are calling it a joke. Where does the casual fan who doesn't watch boxing in this country get their opions? Us. The fans, writers and news reporters of the sport...who see this as an easy fight for Joe. So....no.

Do me a favour mate. What is going to make Calzaghe more appetising to an American boxing audience? Boxing the ears off the plucky kid they all know from The Contender? Or seeing him take a comfortable decision over the Danish guy none of them have ever heard of?

Who apart from the guys who Calzaghe has called out and who have refused the fight would be a bigger American draw than Manfredo?

[Njord777]

Do me a favour mate. What is going to make Calzaghe more appetising to an American boxing audience? Boxing the ears off the plucky kid they all know from The Contender? Or seeing him take a comfortable decision over the Danish guy none of them have ever heard of?

Who apart from the guys who Calzaghe has called out and who have refused the fight would be a bigger American draw than Manfredo?

You're confusing two issues: 1.) Calzaghe's lack of exposure here by taking easy fights, etc. and 2.) Joe ducking Kessler. Those are totally different. At this point I don't feel that Joe fighting Kessler would gain him more exposure. Who would?

Allan Green would. He's more respected and he was recently on HBO- he's a decent name here amongst the boxing crowd.

Besides that, Joe either has to lure big names up, or decide to move up or down in weight to find the big draws. But there is one solid example- Green would be a better fight than ****ing Manfredo.

[SHB]

You realise he just lost to a middleweight?

[hugh grant]

If he beats ONE truly top guy (like Calzaghe did with Lacy. Only there's possible nobody as 'top' as Lacy was considered when Calzaghe ruined him), then I will start rating him.

Until then, I'll consider him to be a good fighter against average opposition.

I agree. I dont know what great opponents Kessler has beaten. I know he is unbeaten. I beleive kessler is good because people keep saying it.
If Joe dont fight Kessler, Joes record is still great by anyones standards. The legendarey boxers of this world like SRL, Duran, Hagler only beat 2 or 3 so called great boxers in there time.
Joe has probably beaten a much higher quality of opponets than a lot of so called legends. Its just these legends have the 2 or 3 great opponents on the cv and that is what Joe needs.

[Njord777]

You realise he just lost to a middleweight?

He didn't lose because of Miranda's skill- he lost because of a bad gameplan. I'm not an Allen Green fan but I've seen him fight and he has skill. He's still a name here despite his loss- in which he still gained some points for knocking Miranda down. Green can fight at super middleweight- that is not a problem for him, and people here would rate him higher than Manfredo in terms of appeal.

[SHB]

So, you're saying that Calzaghe should fight the man who lost to the man who lost to the man who isn't as good as the man (Taylor) that Calzaghe is calling out?

Christ, of all the sticks to beat him up with you've picked a ****ty one there.

[satori555]

I GOT IT! Calzaghe needs to fight himself! no one can say hes ducking anyone since hes the best out there plus its a big fight. im so smart. calzaghe tko 7