Is it possible to pass SRR in greatness?

[Emon723]

old time fighters are being look upon by historians as god, as if they didnt figure in a farce, yes they were great in their own era but as they say, different rules, different techniques, boxers in the past fought more often so it isnt important if they had losses in their early careers.

[monkeyboy]

Yeah, and don't forget;
George W. Bush is a far better president than any of those over rated old-timey farts like Lincoln and George Washington.
Yeah.

Listen Kiddies, when you can't think of any more good opponents for your hero (who seems more intent on TELLING you how good they are instead of SHOWING you) because they have fought (win or lose) every really tough match up available, THEN you can start to compare them to the great boxers.

Until then, enjoy them for what they are but when a GREAT turns up, you'll really know about it. This is what you fanboys don't understand. Some of us rate a select number of people who have stood out amongst thousands of boxers due to the greatness of their accomplishments. But there will be more. They are few and far between but don't kid yourselves. We can't wait for the next one to turn up.
Will Lennox Lewis be mentioned in 100 years time in the same breath as Ali? Probably not. That's not a criticism. It's a plain fact.
Will any current fighter be mentioned in 100 years alongside Robinson? Probably not.
Many of the top fighters of current times are excellent. I love to watch them and the scale of their achievements are superb but they aren't epic. They won't transcend time.
But one day one of the divisions will be rammed with talent and someone will rise to dominate it in a heroic style that will capture public imagination and ****, you'll have an all time great on your hands. And all the boxingscene members that you hate for having a dissenting view from yourselves will all of a sudden be riding the nuts of some contemporary boxer.

We love the old ones and the old ones keep the new ones in perspective.

[phallus]

Boxers now already fight less rounds,use bigger more cushiony gloves and simply don't have the burning desire for long enough to ever compare to the founding father types......just like the rest of society.

the new fighters also will never have records like the old guys, nobody today has 300 pro fights with like 10 losses like the oldtimers did

[trips420]

The great fighters these days make millions fighting b and c level fighters every 6 months.In those days you had to fight alot to get rich.Great fighters today are to lazy with there bloated hbo contracts.

[yrrej]

That's another era. When SRR's fans are dead, a new all-time champion will be crowned....

[The Texican]

No one will ever surpass SRR in today's Business.

[Jazzy Paul]

That's another era. When SRR's fans are dead, a new all-time champion will be crowned....

Total bull****!

[Welter_Skelter]

I have to wonder now what it would take to pass SRR or Armstrong in greatness. They are generally #1 and #2 on most lists with some exceptions.

If DLH fighting the level of competition he did, had remained unbeaten, he STILL wouldn't have passed SRR and Armstrong on most lists. Is there a fighter in recent memory who had the means (meaning the competition was available for him to fight) to pass SRR?

Example: If Jones had beaten Benn, Eubanks, Nunn, McClellan, DM, and Collins, would that had been enough?

If Whitaker had beaten DLH, Trinidad, Chavez, and remained unbeaten, could he have passed him?

Or is the mythical SRR legend insurmountable?

When you have 200 fights.. 5 different weight Championships..have travelled all over the world to fight..and fought the best on offer then you can say you surpassed SRR..
In other words..
FLOYD GAY**** is nowhere near this.. Not even within sights of THIS.. he is so far off from this he doesnt even show up on the RADAR..

[titoi]

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Yeah, and don't forget;
George W. Bush is a far better president than any of those over rated old-timey farts like Lincoln and George Washington.
Yeah.

Listen Kiddies, when you can't think of any more good opponents for your hero (who seems more intent on TELLING you how good they are instead of SHOWING you) because they have fought (win or lose) every really tough match up available, THEN you can start to compare them to the great boxers.

Until then, enjoy them for what they are but when a GREAT turns up, you'll really know about it. This is what you fanboys don't understand. Some of us rate a select number of people who have stood out amongst thousands of boxers due to the greatness of their accomplishments. But there will be more. They are few and far between but don't kid yourselves. We can't wait for the next one to turn up.
Will Lennox Lewis be mentioned in 100 years time in the same breath as Ali? Probably not. That's not a criticism. It's a plain fact.
Will any current fighter be mentioned in 100 years alongside Robinson? Probably not.
Many of the top fighters of current times are excellent. I love to watch them and the scale of their achievements are superb but they aren't epic. They won't transcend time.
But one day one of the divisions will be rammed with talent and someone will rise to dominate it in a heroic style that will capture public imagination and ****, you'll have an all time great on your hands. And all the boxingscene members that you hate for having a dissenting view from yourselves will all of a sudden be riding the nuts of some contemporary boxer.

We love the old ones and the old ones keep the new ones in perspective.

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[-Antonio-]

It will never happen, and my reasoning has already been stated. We didnt see him at his prime. So there will always be that auora around him.