Is it possible to pass SRR in greatness?

[Underboss]

I have to wonder now what it would take to pass SRR or Armstrong in greatness. They are generally #1 and #2 on most lists with some exceptions.

If DLH fighting the level of competition he did, had remained unbeaten, he STILL wouldn't have passed SRR and Armstrong on most lists. Is there a fighter in recent memory who had the means (meaning the competition was available for him to fight) to pass SRR?

Example: If Jones had beaten Benn, Eubanks, Nunn, McClellan, DM, and Collins, would that had been enough?

If Whitaker had beaten DLH, Trinidad, Chavez, and remained unbeaten, could he have passed him?

Or is the mythical SRR legend insurmountable?

[Rudyo]

If Jones would have beaten all of those mentioned he would P4P #1 for sure... I doubt people would mention it though, old time fighters have that "auora" around them.

[Kball15]

I have to wonder now what it would take to pass SRR or Armstrong in greatness. They are generally #1 and #2 on most lists with some exceptions.

If DLH fighting the level of competition he did, had remained unbeaten, he STILL wouldn't have passed SRR and Armstrong on most lists. Is there a fighter in recent memory who had the means (meaning the competition was available for him to fight) to pass SRR?

Example: If Jones had beaten Benn, Eubanks, Nunn, McClellan, DM, and Collins, would that had been enough?

If Whitaker had beaten DLH, Trinidad, Chavez, and remained unbeaten, could he have passed him?

Or is the mythical SRR legend insurmountable?

i think the reason its so close to impossible to get past SRR's p4p #1 rank, is because we didnt see him at his prime.

Same thing with ALI. a lot of guys are against him being at #2, but those who say he deserves the spot argue that we missed 3 years of his career, years in which we could have seen him at his best.

[Underboss]

i think the reason its so close to impossible to get past SRR's p4p #1 rank, is because we didnt see him at his prime.

Same thing with ALI. a lot of guys are against him being at #2, but those who say he deserves the spot argue that we missed 3 years of his career, years in which we could have seen him at his best.

i've never seen his prime videos. but all i know when he was prime he was 92 and 0. until lamotta knocked him down and lost by a big decision.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

No doubt SSR was good but there are 2 things you need to factor in when talking about this-

1) It's near impossible to compare fighters from different era's...Different Rules different styles, different fighters etc....You can't say would Tyson have beaten Dempsey...Would Pep have beaten Paquiao...You can speculate, give examples but when it comes down to it it's impossible to compare the different era's...

2) Old fighters are respected and as stated tend to have an aura about them...It's hard not to look at guys like SSR and think he's not as great as _______...For example people always promote how good Jack Johnson was but to be honest given the fact he has a record with only a handful of decent fighters its hard to see how people consider him better then others..but then it comes back to well who do you consider good. Was this contender better then this one....The reason I can make a statement about Johnson is because even late into his career he fought guys with basically no fighting expierence...

That being said it's not Johnson's fault that boxing was in its Early years...but yes as I said its hard to determine...

[Kball15]

i've never seen his prime videos. but all i know when he was prime he was 92 and 0. until lamotta knocked him down and lost by a big decision.

well nobody that ever lived, unless they attended the fights live, saw SRR in his prime.

Videos were nver made for his early fights at welterweight, where apparently his hands were even FASTER then any fight recorded for him, and thats EXTREMELY FAST

[K-Nan]

People said it before. The fact that a prime SRR is a mystery, gives him a mythical type of vibe. No fighter can really get that feel, with today's technology.

[Easy-E]

we will definitly see a boxer surpass him.
i believe he is severly overrated, e****ially by the older boxing pundits who try and make sure everybody knows the era of boxing they grew up during is better than any other era in history.

[Underboss]

we will definitly see a boxer surpass him.
i believe he is severly overrated, e****ially by the older boxing pundits who try and make sure everybody knows the era of boxing they grew up during is better than any other era in history.

yea man. that's their childhood hero.

[RAESAAD]

Boxers now already fight less rounds,use bigger more cushiony gloves and simply don't have the burning desire for long enough to ever compare to the founding father types......just like the rest of society.