Does Marquez Still Fear the "No Fear" Man, Pacman?

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  • Bonsi
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    #41
    Originally posted by bandeedo
    let me interject with a little truth here. jmm refused the pac rematch on the advice of his trainer nacho, who thought an offer of 750,000( which was only 100,000 more than he recieved for staging a classic in the first fight) was insulting and i agree. he out boxed pac for the better part of 11 rounds so he has no reason to fear pac. jmm said he wants a rematch only when the controversies regarding the fight were mentioned. in other words if marco thinks he got shafted we can do it again and ill beat him again. in my opinion he allready beat pac more convincingly than he beat marco. jmm was caught by surprise with pacs speed in his left hand in the first round. it took him less than 6 minutes to figure out what he needed to do to beat the one armed bandit. pac has improved some but not enough to trouble jmm too much. pac is just not that smart, he has to rely on his strength, great conditioning and quick straight left, he is not smart enough to adjust in the middle of the fight. jmm will have months to study and prepare for a fighter with such a limited arsenal. jmm by ud in a much easier fight for him than the first.

    i'm just wondering why JMM did not say the same thing to Merchant after the fight w/ Pacquiao... instead jmm said "No need for a rematch" because he thinks he won the fight.............

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    • ippo
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      #42
      Only Mexicans are blind and think Marquez won 11 out of the 12 rounds.Their were about 5 rounds in which Pacquiao won with out question.Pacquiao was moving forward and being the aggressor and did land a lot of shots on Marquez's face.One or two counters by Marquez does not win you the round.

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      • bandeedo
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        #43
        i never said he won 11 of the 12 rounds, get someone to read along with you and explain. i said "he outboxed pac for the better part of 11 rounds. he did not agree to a rematch with pac for the reasons i allready stated. he did not feel a 100,000 raise was adequate compensation for a rematch against a guy he felt he allready beat. he outclassed pac a lot more convincingly than he did barrera so in his opinion marco has a better argument in demanding a rematch. jmm did not get offered 750,000 for pac or 60,000 to fight someone else. they made the offer for pac, jmm said not enough so pac went somewhere else. this left jmm with less money options and was forced to fight for less. anyone who thinks pac won more than 3 rounds needs to remove pacs nuts from his eyes when watching boxing. pac is a very good and exciting fighter but all his nuthuggers exagerations discredit what the man has actually accomplished. its like my dad can beat your dad because hes MY dad.

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        • brownpimp88
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          #44
          There is no doubt that marquez beat barrera on saturday and he beat pac 3 years ago. Just like floyd said, if you score 3 knockdowns and it ends up being a draw, that means you really lost the fight. Marquez won about 8 or 9 rounds comfortably IMO.

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          • Mikie
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            #45
            It's pretty simple. If JMM boxes, he wins if he does not get caught. If he brawls like he did againist MAB, he gets knocked out in less than 4.

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            • CoLd_WaVE
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              #46
              Originally posted by += El Jefe=+
              yo
              I like your ****, its very big and it looks strong
              L O L... jefe... that sounds kinda gay.... j/k

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              • alliberg26
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                #47
                Pac fears marquez that is why he was going for barrera...now his fears are for real....in 2004 pac priced himself out of a fight...the champ should always get more that the challenger but pac and his management knew that marquez would not have taken less pay than pac who has done nothing so far..,.even now he holds no world title...now pac needs marquez more than marquez needs pac....marquez can fight barrera again or morales or the other top fighters that pac has been avoiding like guzman and valerio.....who wants to see pac fight barrera now that barrera lost...or another morales vs pac fight...pac will have to beg for a fight and take less money or fight valerio or guzman for less and gets schooled big time......the time is ticking away for pac..TICK TOCK TICK TOCK...

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                • chito
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by bandeedo
                  let me interject with a little truth here. jmm refused the pac rematch on the advice of his trainer nacho, who thought an offer of 750,000( which was only 100,000 more than he recieved for staging a classic in the first fight) was insulting and i agree. he out boxed pac for the better part of 11 rounds so he has no reason to fear pac. jmm said he wants a rematch only when the controversies regarding the fight were mentioned. in other words if marco thinks he got shafted we can do it again and ill beat him again. in my opinion he allready beat pac more convincingly than he beat marco. jmm was caught by surprise with pacs speed in his left hand in the first round. it took him less than 6 minutes to figure out what he needed to do to beat the one armed bandit. pac has improved some but not enough to trouble jmm too much. pac is just not that smart, he has to rely on his strength, great conditioning and quick straight left, he is not smart enough to adjust in the middle of the fight. jmm will have months to study and prepare for a fighter with such a limited arsenal. jmm by ud in a much easier fight for him than the first.
                  no fight would be easy for these two fighters. one has a superior counter-punching ability, the other one is too quick & powerful. but let me point out, pac is his prime, jmm is getting older. maybe you're just basing your conclusion to the recent fight bet him & mab. pac is no mab, he's fresher & stronger. if jmm could easily get knock down by just one punch, it's gonna be a different story w/ pac!

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                  • bdogg1939
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                    #49
                    Lets get it ALL straight!!!!!
                    None of these great warriors have fear for another...
                    its all business and they just have to make smart moves in choosing the right opponents at the right time...
                    JMM beat MAB fair and squqre by landing the mor clear and accurate shots and outworking MAB the whole fight....
                    JMM wants a rematch to show that he could do it again....
                    Now hes the WBC champ and its long overdue.....
                    Pac should come to Golden Boy And fight the guys there and there will bee more money and respect there.

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                    • bandeedo
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by chito
                      no fight would be easy for these two fighters. one has a superior counter-punching ability, the other one is too quick & powerful. but let me point out, pac is his prime, jmm is getting older. maybe you're just basing your conclusion to the recent fight bet him & mab. pac is no mab, he's fresher & stronger. if jmm could easily get knock down by just one punch, it's gonna be a different story w/ pac!
                      i didnt mean easy, i meant easier than the first, i should have said with less difficulty than the first fight. what different story? you seem to forget pac hit jmm with three of the most beautifull punches pac has ever thrown and marquez dusted himself off and rang the schoolbell to begin the boxing lessons. he wasnt even effected by those punches after the first round. now all of a sudden pac is going to easily knock jmm out, come on buddy.

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