Hall-of-Famer Thinks Evander Holyfield is Anything But 'The Real Deal'

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    Hall-of-Famer Thinks Evander Holyfield is Anything But 'The Real Deal'

    For nearly two decades, Evander Holyfield’s name was synonymous with professional boxing. With a chiseled body, warm personality and in-ring prowess, the man nicknamed “The Real Deal” proved to many to be one of boxing’s authentic characters. Not everyone was sold though. In fact, some, including a current Hall of Famer and former Holyfield opponent, allege that Evander was anything but real and say that his link to an Alabama pharmacy accused of selling steroids is proof.

    In an exclusive interview last week, International Boxing Hall of Famer Dwight Muhammad Qawi said he had reason to believe that Holyfield was a “cheater” and felt vindicated in reports linking Holyfield to the pharmacy suspected of selling steroids. Qawi, who fought and lost to Holyfield twice in his career, suspects that Holyfield has used performance-enhancing drugs throughout his career, including before and during their legendary 15-round war in Atlanta, GA in 1986. Moreover, Qawi said that he’s been on record for years stating that he believed that Holyfield gained an unfair edge in their 1986 bout thanks to the use of steroids. [details]
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    I can't believe no-one has commented on this... I don't think any fighter who used steroids should be admitted to the HOF. Holyfield and Roy Jones Junior were great entertainers ala professional wrestling, but including them with honored athletes in boxing's HOF is disrespectful and cheapening.

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      #3
      Originally posted by titoi
      I can't believe no-one has commented on this... I don't think any fighter who used steroids should be admitted to the HOF. Holyfield and Roy Jones Junior were great entertainers ala professional wrestling, but including them with honored athletes in boxing's HOF is disrespectful and cheapening.
      i have never seen the qawi/holyfield fight

      now its my number one fight that i want to see, curious if the things qawi says are apparent to the naked eye

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        Originally posted by titoi
        I can't believe no-one has commented on this... I don't think any fighter who used steroids should be admitted to the HOF. Holyfield and Roy Jones Junior were great entertainers ala professional wrestling, but including them with honored athletes in boxing's HOF is disrespectful and cheapening.
        Roy tested positive one time for a not so huge amount, against Richard Hall. This positive test could be explained by a variety of things other than rrrroid usage for the purpose of gaining an advantage. And why the hell would anyone feel the need to juice vs Hall?

        Don't overstate the issue.

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          Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
          Roy tested positive one time for a not so huge amount, against Richard Hall. This positive test could be explained by a variety of things other than rrrroid usage for the purpose of gaining an advantage. And why the hell would anyone feel the need to juice vs Hall?

          Don't overstate the issue.
          How many times does he need to get caught before I can consider it relevant?

          How many times does he need to admit to it? http://www.blackathlete.com/Boxing/060904.shtml

          I don't think I'm overstating it.

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            Oh please. I've read that article many times. It's full of conjecture and connects dots in her mind in a silly, conspiratorial manner.

            It is your CHOICE to take everything in that article with the same validity as the author writes it. It is not gospel. Far from it.

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              who gives a **** about roy jones, this thread is about evander holyfield

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                Originally posted by Hitman932
                who gives a **** about roy jones, this thread is about evander holyfield
                I don't really give a damn about either one except to think they both do a disservice to boxing, boxers and athletes in general. As far as Holyfield goes, I don't think anyone who watched him morph from this:

                to this:

                has grave questions about his steroid use...

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                  Originally posted by titoi
                  I can't believe no-one has commented on this... I don't think any fighter who used steroids should be admitted to the HOF. Holyfield and Roy Jones Junior were great entertainers ala professional wrestling, but including them with honored athletes in boxing's HOF is disrespectful and cheapening.
                  I already posted what Roy failed for, it was Andro according to ESPN.
                  Andro was legal and I am not sure if Roy new he was taking it, or the "Ripped Fuel" he claimed he was taking was just contaminated from the mixing of products in the machines.

                  Hall also tested positive in that same fight, did you know that?

                  Maybe it was a faulty test. Believe me, great Labs are hard to come by. Even the bigger name ones screw up.
                  Getting an accurate test isn't as easy as one may think.
                  Last edited by Benny Leonard; 03-13-2007, 02:24 PM.

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                    Originally posted by titoi
                    I don't really give a damn about either one except to think they both do a disservice to boxing, boxers and athletes in general. As far as Holyfield goes, I don't think anyone who watched him morph from this:

                    to this:

                    has grave questions about his steroid use...
                    Honestly, the gains aren't that impressive. I have seen much greater gains from "Natural" athletes. You also thicken with age. The hormone DHT also increases when you get into your mid 20's, which increases strength, which will increase muscle mass; it is also responsible for hair loss.

                    Now if you show me the two pictures of Barry Bonds, now that is a transformation.

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