How does Chagaev beat Valuev?

**IronNick** · 03-12-2007, 08:52 PM

how does Chagaev win? simple, he doesnt.

**GattiFan** · 03-12-2007, 08:53 PM

With a bat.

Or...Take a page out of the Larry Donald Textbook.

Its called BOXING.

Crazy I know.

But Valuev cant do it....so maybe Russian Ruslan can. Cause Rulsan's left hook looks sharp...but...I dont think its enough.

**!!Captain** · 03-12-2007, 08:57 PM

I don't think it'll work on Valuev anymore

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**RockyMarcianofan00** · 03-12-2007, 09:01 PM

IMO he's always going to be relatively slow...

**potatoes** · 03-12-2007, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by boxing2005

I don't think it'll work on Valuev anymore

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Did you happen to notice that Johnny slipped one way and Monte the other? The other way is decidedly more dangerous especially when you are throwing wild haymakers instead of a proper rightcross.

**American_Ninja** · 03-12-2007, 09:09 PM

How does Chagaev beat Valuev?

He doesn't. Too small, no punch. "IT" may be a freak, but he can box a bit.

**potatoes** · 03-12-2007, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by phxboxingfan

He doesn't. Too small, no punch. "IT" may be a freak, but he can box a bit.

"...a bit." might not be enough. There are various ways to hit that giant with a lefthook.

And Chagaev is a better boxer than Barrett.

**!!Captain** · 03-12-2007, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by potatoes

Did you happen to notice that Johnny slipped one way and Monte the other? The other way is decidedly more dangerous especially when you are throwing wild haymakers instead of a proper rightcross.

That's somewhat true. But what I'm trying to say, is that Valuev is definitely learning with every fight and will not be making the same mistakes in his next one. I doubt Chagaev will even come close to winning.

**potatoes** · 03-12-2007, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by boxing2005

That's somewhat true. But what I'm trying to say, is that Valuev is definitely learning with every fight and will not be making the same mistakes in his next one. I doubt Chagaev will even come close to winning.

Even if Valuev removes every technical flaw from his style, he will still have a long list of limitations, not the least of which is speed or rather lack of it. Just because Barrett and Beck just stood there and got hit does not mean that Chagaev has to do the same thing. Valuev is vulnerable and it doesn't take a lot of talent to exploit his weaknesses. Chagaev has enough ability, the question is does he have enough ambition?

How does Chagaev beat Valuev?