Who actually has a good chance of beating Wlad?

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  • werewolf
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    #71
    Size isn't the issue in this division...


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    Why should a guy who is say 201 be expected to fight against someone who is 230 or 250 or even over 300 pounds (or in the case of Butterbean over 400 pounds!)? That's a hell of a handicap! And on the other hand light weight classes are seperated by a rediculous 2 or 3 pounds. Why is size and weight suddenly supposed to be unimportant when you get to #200?

    Look at that picture of Chagaev and Valuev. It's absurd that they should be in the same weight class.

    Just one more ****ed up aspect to the ****ed up world of boxing.




    ww

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    • dino
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      #72
      anybody who can punch, BRIGGS PETER BREWSTER, I THINK VALUEV CAN BEAT HIM ALSO

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      • eazy_mas
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        #73
        Originally posted by RunW/Knives
        Originally posted by SouzaSuarez2012
        The Cuban from the olympics. He will take the heavyweight division by storm. His name is Odlanier Solis and he is a 2004 Olympic gold medalist, two time Pan American Champion, and three time world amateur champion. He along with two teammates who escaped to America will turn pro April 13 here in Miami. The temmates accomplishments are just as impressive as his. Im very interested to see how they do.

        As far as right now, I give Valuev a chance to be honest with you. Just because hes ***in huge and id be interested to see how Wlad fights when hes at a disadvantage when it comes to height and size considering he usually depends on them two things to win. He would have to really change his style. Peter has a good shot in a rematch too. Pretty much anyone with a good punch has a shot. Its just a matter of time before Wlad gets caught again.

        both of those guy coyld have a chance i agree with both

        another person he is a russian olyimpian too could do it sultonoivece at the least chance but still a chance

        anyone with hand and legs to fight and comes in the ring have a chance but it depends on how big there chance are

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        • Derranged
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          #74
          I used to think Rahman had the best chance, but not anymore.

          I guess Valuev simply because of his size and strength.

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          • j
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            #75
            i will say it.

            there is not one person who can consistantly beat wladimir. only get lucky once.

            wlad looked sharp and extremely dangerous against austin. i could tell that his focus was where it should be. he looked mean, had an aggressive swagger to him, yet didn't carelessly throw out non meaningfull punches. the wladimir klitschko that fought austin would take anybody down, without breaking a sweat.

            this, i am sure of. his look as he came into the ring told me everything i needed to know. and it showed in his fight.

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            • potatoes
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              #76
              Originally posted by Nickman949
              Besides his brother, I can't think of anyone right now.

              All it takes to beat Wladimir Klitschko is a little bit of skill and lots of heart. Few can match his talent and skill, but none of the guys who beat Klitschko were better than him. Ross Puritty isn't a great boxer but he did what he needed to do to win. Ray Austin had his chance and blew it. Klitschko has nearly everything a man would need to become one of the greatest heavyweights ever.....nearly everything. What he lacks is strength of mind. Give him some adversity and he collapses like a house of cards. Some of these clowns claim Klitschko has a glass jaw and no stamina, but they have no idea what they are talking about. His problem is emotional control. Give him something to worry about and that is what he will do. And that is how you beat him.

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              • The Lodger
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                #77
                Some people are saying size isn't really an issue, but that simply isn't true; it's like the old saying goes, ''A good big guy will always beat a good little guy.'' Much smaller men need to make up for their size deficit by having exceptional qualities, and I just don't see great smaller men out there. I think if anyone will give Klitschko problems it will be a big guy.

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                • brownpimp88
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                  #78
                  Lamon Brewster will beat him again, i cant wait till he comes back.

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                  • beez721
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Kball15
                    LOL!!!

                    WHAT?!?!?!?!?!

                    Of coarse he does things better. he does virtually EVERYTHING better.

                    This would be a MUCH better fight , and a MUCH closer fight the second time around.

                    Peter will DEFINETLY knock him out nice and quick
                    peter couldnt knock out a fat clearly now shot 38 yr old toney in 24 rounds. couldnt stop john hawkins or shufford who was flattened by wlad. already got beat by wlad handily without those 3 bogus bs knockdown calls against a wlad that fought one of the worst fights of his life yet he'll win a rematch over a vastly improved fighter? dont see the logic on that one. peter has yet to stop a class B or better heavyweight and looking better over a shot fighter who couldnt move out of the way of his own 2 feet doesnt convince me he'd have any better chance than he did the first time

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                    • beez721
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Kball15
                      he had NO boxing ability against WLAD.

                      He has improved an INCREDIBLE amount.

                      How can anybody who knows boxing fail to see this?

                      He was throwing combinations, he was setting up his power shots better, he was beating toney to the punch when toney was against the ropes.

                      Wlad would have been finished in round 1 if he fought peter that night
                      hello? who couldnt have looked good against that version of toney? he was right there for the taking. you clearly havent seen peter's other fights when he's in shape. he's shown a good jab and descent combos in other fights. watch him against shufford and pudar. against wlad he was in great shape at 243 lbs but just couldnt cope with the reach,, speed and jab of wlad. wlads jab killed his. how you cant see this I'll never know. he cant reach wlad with his jab. he's just too short and doesnt have the reach. wlad isnt a 5'9 toney that stands right there. its obvious

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