When Will Mexicans Stop Beating

[danny stash]

mexicans v.s puerto ricans in boxing...hmmm...

Dude its the filipinos vs the THAIS...thats the rivalry

[SnoopySmurf]

Dude its the filipinos vs the THAIS...thats the rivalry

Not quite. 90% of the so called fighters that go to Thailand are there to pad Thai fighters' records.

[flipside]

Not quite. 90% of the so called fighters that go to Thailand are there to pad Thai fighters' records.

true very true. they had one come to the PI he was prospct had like 14 ko's in 14 fights and fought an "over the hill fighter with 60+ fights. thai got ktfo in 2 rounds. poor kid.

[Alibata]

Wasnt this an old thread? If it isnt a rivalry they sure are trying stir one up. Pinoys are trying to break in the U.S. market and it so happens that Packy opened some eyes againts some mexican legends that has made every Pinoy vs. Mexican fight so far a fight for bragging rights. You can tell by all the Pinoy haters poppin up that they want nothing more than to see a Pinoy loose in the ring. I think the world cup on August 11, which I think is close match fighter for fighter, will further fuel the rivalry especially if the Pinoys win which will cause people like the thread starter some emotional damage. By the way Pinoys are up on Mexicans post Manny Pac. It may have been tomato cans but August 11 should tell.

[ryu89]

you giving us Mexicans a bad name...

[gixxer]

Wasnt this an old thread? If it isnt a rivalry they sure are trying stir one up. Pinoys are trying to break in the U.S. market and it so happens that Packy opened some eyes againts some mexican legends that has made every Pinoy vs. Mexican fight so far a fight for bragging rights. You can tell by all the Pinoy haters poppin up that they want nothing more than to see a Pinoy loose in the ring. I think the world cup on August 11, which I think is close match fighter for fighter, will further fuel the rivalry especially if the Pinoys win which will cause people like the thread starter some emotional damage. By the way Pinoys are up on Mexicans post Manny Pac. It may have been tomato cans but August 11 should tell.

your wrong by a long shot......Mexicans are up we have the better fighters....

[Alibata]

your wrong by a long shot......Mexicans are up we have the better fighters....

Im talking post Pacquiao beating barrera. Check the records.

From memory:
Filipino loses to Mexicans post pacquiao/Barrera I:

Pacquiao to Morales
Jaca lost to Marquez
Penalosa to De Leon (controversial)
Z Gorres to Montiel (controversial)
B Pac to Soto
B Pac to Velasquez
B Viloria to Sosa
B Viloria to Omar Nino Romero
Suico to Baby Bull
Suico to Javier Jauregui


Mexican loses to pinoys post barrear/pac I:

Barrera to Pacquiao
Morales to Pacquiao
Hernandez to Pacquiao
Larios to Pacquiao
Solis to Pacquiao
C Navarro to B Pacquiao
Marino Montiel W 30 L 9 to R Bautista W 21 L 0
G Espinosa W 28 (26 ko's) L 11 to R Bautista W 18 L 0 18yrs old
J Hernandez 11-0-0 to B Concepcion 18-1-1 (WBC youth batamweight title)
B Flores 14-2-0 to B Concepcion 20-1-1
JA Tirado to Z Gorres
Lorenzo Trejo 26-13-0 to Rodel Mayol 21-0-0
S Ortiz 17-9-0 to Czar Amonsot 16-1-1
J A Rosas 25-2-0 to A J Banal 12-0-1
Hector Marquez 28-16-0 to Jimrex Jaca 26-2-1
Geronimo Hernandez 14-17-1 to Jimrex Jaca 25-1-1
Oscar Andrade to Nonito Donaire
Jose Luis Cardenas to Nonito Donaire
D Gonzales to Nonito Donaire
P Villalobos to Nonito Donaire
Gilberto Bolanos to Nonito donaire
Ricardo Barrera to Nonito Donaire
Jorge Lopez to Nonito Donaire
L Castillo to Glen Donaire
R Gomez to Glen Donaire
T Rojas 22-8-0 to Gerry Penalosa 49-5-2
E Ortiz to Brian Viloria
J Antonio Aguirre to Brian Viloria
R Contreras to Brian Viloria
V Leon to Brian Viloria

This is from 2003 the year Pac beat Barrera. Like I said alot of the beaten Mexicans were tomato cans but Pinoys are comming out the wood work since the days of Luisito Espinosa. Good time too because of Barrera, Hamed, Morales there is more attention. I don't know about you saying mexicans are better fighters, maybe a better history of fighters, but when has Pinoy fighters ever got the chance to showcase their talent in the U.S.? Not for a long time. Its not like all of a sudden Pinoys just popped up on HBO, showtime, vs, espn, etc because their was a concurrent rise of fighters with talent the same time Pacquiao rolled around. Look at how Pinoys stack up; you watched Pacquiao vs. Barrera, who woulda known Pac was that good; Montiel vs Gorres (I thought Gorres won), no one thought Gorres was in the same class; An aging Penalosa finally got a shot and look how he did againts De Leon, Most thought Gerry P was getting knocked out but instead PDL was on his bike at the end. Nonito Donaire Koed Vic Darchinyan in a shocker. Its not like Pinoys did not have the talent, they just never had the support. Pac changed all that.

[MR. BOXINGSCENE]

Im talking post Pacquiao beating barrera. Check the records.

From memory:
Filipino loses to Mexicans post pacquiao/Barrera I:
Jaca lost to Marquez
Penalosa to De Leon (controversial)
Z Gorres to Montiel (controversial)
B Pac to Soto
B Pac to Hernandez
B Viloria to Sosa
B Viloria to Omar Nino Romero
Suico to Baby Bull


Mexican loses to pinoys post barrear/pac I:

Barrera to Pacquiao
Morales to Pacquiao
Hernandez to Pacquiao
Larios to Pacquiao
Solis to Pacquiao
Marino Montiel W 30 L 9 to R Bautista W 21 L 0
G Espinosa W 28 (26 ko's) L 11 to R Bautista W 18 L 0 18yrs old
J Hernandez 11-0-0 to B Concepcion 18-1-1 (WBC youth batamweight title)
B Flores 14-2-0 to B Concepcion 20-1-1
JA Tirado to Z Gorres
Lorenzo Trejo 26-13-0 to Rodel Mayol 21-0-0
S Ortiz 17-9-0 to Czar Amonsot 16-1-1
J A Rosas 25-2-0 to A J Banal 12-0-1
Hector Marquez 28-16-0 to Jimrex Jaca 26-2-1
Geronimo Hernandez 14-17-1 to Jimrex Jaca 25-1-1
Oscar Andrade to Nonito Donaire
Jose Luis Cardenas to Nonito Donaire
D Gonzales to Nonito Donaire
P Villalobos to Nonito Donaire
Gilberto Bolanos to Nonito donaire
Ricardo Barrera to Nonito Donaire
Jorge Lopez to Nonito Donaire
L Castillo to Glen Donaire
R Gomez to Glen Donaire
T Rojas 22-8-0 to Gerry Penalosa 49-5-2
E Ortiz to Brian Viloria
J Antonio Aguirre to Brian Viloria
R Contreras to Brian Viloria
V Leon to Brian Viloria

This is from 2003 the year Pac beat Barrera. Like I said alot of the beaten Mexicans were tomato cans but Pinoys are comming out the wood work since the days of Luisito Espinosa. Good time too because of Barrera, Hamed, Morales there is more attention. I don't know about you saying mexicans are better fighters, maybe a better history of fighters, but when has Pinoy fighters ever got the chance to showcase their talent in the U.S.? Not for a long time. Its not like all of a sudden Pinoys just popped up on HBO, showtime, vs, espn, etc because their was a concurrent rise of fighters with talent the same time Pacquiao rolled around. Look at how Pinoys stack up; you watched Pacquiao vs. Barrera, who woulda known Pac was that good; Montiel vs Gorres (I thought Gorres won), no one thought Gorres was in the same class; An aging Penalosa finally got a shot and look how he did againts De Leon, Most thought Gerry P was getting knocked out but instead PDL was on his bike at the end. Nonito Donaire Koed Vic Darchinyan in a shocker. Its not like Pinoys did not have the talent, they just never had the support. Pac changed all that.

good posts!

[Alibata]

good posts!

I forgot Pac lost to Morales, Suico to Jauregui and b pac to velasquez. Edited already

[eazy_mas]

well itis mostly fighters rival other fighters.

If you look it that way then southern mexician rival people from north and many other place rival others. as well as mexician amercian rival mexicians.

But once someone is in the ring all the crappy nationality doesnt matter and the only thing that will not betray him is his training. All the fans people media hoccus pocus doesnt effect the fighters. it one on one in a square ring. The winner is the one who is more smarter and hungerier