Max Kellerman: "7 out of 10 heavyweights are juicing"

[-Antonio-]

First of all the title says heavyweights, so those who are referring to all of the fighters should read it again. Second of all, I think hes about right. Id say its more along the lines of 6/10 though. Why is it so hard to believe? I think you guys would be shocked out how many athletes take the roids.

[Hitman932]

bottom line.....

people posting in this thread (for the most part) dont know **** compared to max kellerman.... and furthermore dont know anything about steroids...

as stated before you dont need to be ripped out of your mind to be "doping"

it would be much more beneficial to partake in blood doping in the fashion that cyclists do....think about it guys..

you can lift weights and take natural supplements and get ripped in 6-8 months time....

but getting into world class cardio shape is a long hard struggle.... this is where a fighter is much more likely to take his shortcuts, especially a heavyweight

[Mr. Ryan]

I'd bet my soul that if Pernell came out and said he did 'roids and thats what made him great that Kellerman would be getting a needle in his ass THAT DAY

and my fav. fighter James Toney is probably everyones pick for biest heavyweight roider. and it explains all the injuries, but then what about Vitali?? Trust me if Jack Dempsey or Corbett could've had that advantage they would've taken it in a NY minute.

I was talking to Kenny Craven, a heavyweight who has fought Calvin Brock and Butterbean. He said that if he had the money, the incentive is definitely there to use. Only the top guys have the money to finance that, though.

[Mr. Ryan]

Check it. The pituatary gland is in the brain stem, an area where fighters get hit alot. As a result, boxers have less HGH naturally occurring than the average businessman. That is an added incentive to do so.

[mECHsLAVE]

He could be right, who knows? Boxing has some of the strictest drug testing of any sport, though, so I'd rather see the headlines pointing out all the baseball and football players who have so obviously put on obscene amounts of muscle mass in short periods of time and have half-ass drug testing in their sports. There's SO many of them to look at, who are so obviously juicing, that I think it's a little irresponsible to point the finger at fighters who's bodies and performances haven't drastically changed at all.

Briggs is of course juicing, it's obvious from the absurd, foreign-looking muscle mass he's added. And of course Toney juiced and got caught, trying to build up his stamina and probably mainly to help his body recuperate from training, allowing him to train. The rest? Speculative, and possible, sure. I'm sure 7 out of 10 HAVE juiced. Heck, I'm sure 10 out of 10 "have juiced." It's the "are juicing" that's a little irresponsible, especially when there's no physical evidence, performance evidence, or tests to back up what he's saying, especially at the top level of HW's, which is where I'm assuming he's focusing his comments.

If he's going to make statements like that, then he needs to back it up, that's all. Like when someone wants to make a case for Bonds and all the baseball players having juiced- there's SO many things to point at other than drug tests. I'm not sure what evidence he has with the top HW's, other than Holyfield, who is not a top HW anymore.

[Ted The Bull]

...Who the hell is Hussein Rahman? I think Kellerman should keep his mouth shut unless he has 100% proof. He is basically supposed to be a spokesman for boxing and every time I turn around he is talking **** about it. Screw that pencil necked turd. Is he positioning for an MMA gig or something?

Amen. He is an eyeball popping squirt with a God-awful nasal accent. YYeeeech!

[Benny Leonard]

Check it. The pituatary gland is in the brain stem, an area where fighters get hit alot. As a result, boxers have less HGH naturally occurring than the average businessman. That is an added incentive to do so.

???

It is not until an injury that "may" cause damage. You would need an MRI to see what's up.

Usually, these Alpha-Male athletes already are so high on HGH, Testosterone, and other hormones, that by the time they are in there 40-50's, they are probably back in the "norm."
It's about hard work, but a lot has to do with great genes.

You have to look over the number sheets and clear through the bull**** that Doctors say.

When Toney was on ESPN "Outside the Lines", I bet it was more to the use of Nandrolone, which is one of the worse steroids for shutting down your natural ability to produce hormones.

I wonder if Toney didn't use treatment to kick start his hormones back. With no treatment, it can take up to a year, if not longer, if at all.

[American_Ninja]

Kellerman is a ****ing idiot! The only proof he has is from licking Toney's balls.

Exactly what I was gonna say.

[Benny Leonard]

Max can say 7 out of 10, but doesn't he need proof, especially since he is in the media?

I would like to know how he knows this. Isn't the job of a journalist to expose the truth?

If he isn't right, Max should be sued for slander.



I will say this, Steroids have been around since the 1930's, other drugs even before, so I guess everbody has to be suspect.

[Kid Achilles]

I will say this, Steroids have been around since the 1930's, other drugs even before, so I guess everbody has to be suspect.

Boxers back then didn't even use weights, let alone anabolic steroids used on horses. The steroid problem is a contemporary one I think. Guys like Ali, Marciano, Louis, etc. are safe. It's Tyson and on that have the question mark over them.

Sorry, and nice try, but we can safely say the old timers were all roid free.

Old timers: 1 modern fighters: 0

OR...

Old timers (pre late 1970'd): 0% modern fighters: 70% <-- the comparative steroid rates amongst heavyweights then and now.