Max Kellerman: "7 out of 10 heavyweights are juicing"

[TheFairPole]

Think about it this way. Just because someone uses performance enhancers, doesn't mean that the juice itself is throwing the punch. Perhaps the advances in science and performance enhancers has caused fighters to lose priority of the most important factor, solid technical skill.

I know from intimate sources that several top fighters have used steroids in the past or currently. Kellerman is not completely off and you'd be shocked to know how many fighters are juicing. Poppy seed bagels are not the catalyst for the increased numbers of fighters testing positive for steroids, contrary to whatever you might believe.

Huh? Who said anything about Poppy seed bagels? LOL Where is the evidence of increased numbers of fighters testing positive? There's been a few here and there but nothing allarming at all. I do agree that it is going on like in all sports, but 70% is way too high.

[SquareCircle]

well, at least now you know that those kind of bagels make your piss dirty.

every day you learn something, see?

[Floyd R]

Without proof Kellerman's comments are just speculation. I seriously doubt he would know which boxers are juicing. The ones that are doing it would keep it a private matter to prevent getting caught.

[TheFairPole]

well, at least now you know that those kind of bagels make your piss dirty.

every day you learn something, see?

I guess... It sounds rediculous but ok. Poppy seed bagels!!! LoL

[totalstranga]

I'd bet my soul that if Pernell came out and said he did 'roids and thats what made him great that Kellerman would be getting a needle in his ass THAT DAY

and my fav. fighter James Toney is probably everyones pick for biest heavyweight roider. and it explains all the injuries, but then what about Vitali?? Trust me if Jack Dempsey or Corbett could've had that advantage they would've taken it in a NY minute.

[SquareCircle]

Without proof Kellerman's comments are just speculation. I seriously doubt he would know which boxers are juicing. The ones that are doing it would keep it a private matter to prevent getting caught.

well.

It's rumored Hasim Rahman benches around 600 pounds, I'd say he's juicing to accomplish that, even though he doesn't look like he's juicing. let's take a look at the top 20 fighters right now in the heavyweight division.

ratings courtesy of boxrec. although they're known for a ****ed up top 20, this one is believeable, and anyway the point of this isnt a totally accurate list, just 25 guys at or near the top and my assumption of whether or not they juiced.

1 Wladimir Klitschko 30 1,055 1996 47-3-0 juiced

2 Samuel Peter 26 944 2001 28-1-0 juiced

3 Oleg Maskaev 38 830 1993 34-5-0 juiced

4 Nikolay Valuev 33 825 1993 46-0-0 non juicer

5 Lamon Brewster 33 558 1996 33-3-0 juiced

6 Ruslan Chagaev 28 544 1997 22-0-1 non juicer

7 John Ruiz 35 543 1992 41-7-1 non juicer

8 Shannon Briggs 35 528 1992 48-4-1 juicer

9 Matt Skelton 40 510 2002 20-1-0 non juicer

10 Tony Thompson 35 507 2000 29-1-0 non juicer

11 Vladimir Virchis 33 482 1999 22-1-0 non juicer

12 Chris Byrd 36 481 1993 39-3-1 non juicer

13 Hasim Rahman 34 473 1994 41-6-2 juicer

14 James Toney 38 429 1988 69-6-3 juicer

15 Sultan Ibragimov 31 425 2002 19-0-1 non juicer

16 Calvin Brock 32 424 2001 29-1-0 non juicer

17 Tye Fields 32 414 1999 38-1-0 hardcore juicer

18 Eddie Chambers 24 390 2000 28-0-0 non juicer

19 Danny Williams 33 368 1995 37-6-0 juicer

20 Chris Arreola 26 367 2003 19-0-0 non juicer



total: 9 J/11 NJ

[TheFairPole]

So I was right, its not 70%! LOL

[Double]

I'd bet my soul that if Pernell came out and said he did 'roids and thats what made him great that Kellerman would be getting a needle in his ass THAT DAY

and my fav. fighter James Toney is probably everyones pick for biest heavyweight roider. and it explains all the injuries, but then what about Vitali?? Trust me if Jack Dempsey or Corbett could've had that advantage they would've taken it in a NY minute.

You from AA dude? I graduated from Huron in 89

[PBDS]

What does having his job have to do with him saying ****** **** all the time. Do you have any idea how many boxers there are in the world? You gonna tell me 70% are on steroids? I don't think so. I can't stand Kellerman and his ****** opinions. That 4th grade intelligence that you showed is just brilliant. "If your sooo smart then why don't you have his job" lol.

...Yep, that has to rank up there with one of the dumbest things ever said on here.

[beez721]

well.

It's rumored Hasim Rahman benches around 600 pounds, I'd say he's juicing to accomplish that, even though he doesn't look like he's juicing. let's take a look at the top 20 fighters right now in the heavyweight division.

ratings courtesy of boxrec. although they're known for a ****ed up top 20, this one is believeable, and anyway the point of this isnt a totally accurate list, just 25 guys at or near the top and my assumption of whether or not they juiced.

1 Wladimir Klitschko 30 1,055 1996 47-3-0 juiced

2 Samuel Peter 26 944 2001 28-1-0 juiced

3 Oleg Maskaev 38 830 1993 34-5-0 juiced

4 Nikolay Valuev 33 825 1993 46-0-0 non juicer

5 Lamon Brewster 33 558 1996 33-3-0 juiced

6 Ruslan Chagaev 28 544 1997 22-0-1 non juicer

7 John Ruiz 35 543 1992 41-7-1 non juicer

8 Shannon Briggs 35 528 1992 48-4-1 juicer

9 Matt Skelton 40 510 2002 20-1-0 non juicer

10 Tony Thompson 35 507 2000 29-1-0 non juicer

11 Vladimir Virchis 33 482 1999 22-1-0 non juicer

12 Chris Byrd 36 481 1993 39-3-1 non juicer

13 Hasim Rahman 34 473 1994 41-6-2 juicer

14 James Toney 38 429 1988 69-6-3 juicer

15 Sultan Ibragimov 31 425 2002 19-0-1 non juicer

16 Calvin Brock 32 424 2001 29-1-0 non juicer

17 Tye Fields 32 414 1999 38-1-0 hardcore juicer

18 Eddie Chambers 24 390 2000 28-0-0 non juicer

19 Danny Williams 33 368 1995 37-6-0 juicer

20 Chris Arreola 26 367 2003 19-0-0 non juicer



total: 9 J/11 NJ

wlad klit does not have that chiseled bloated steroid look and have you ever seen pics of him when he was like 13? he was more ripped then. people accusing him are just looking to hate on him. there are no signs of it from him at all