Steward quote about Wlad.

[PBDS]

skill?? the way Toney and Byrd slip punches and fire back counters takes skill, the way mosley and de le hoya set up 6-7 punch lighting fast combos shows skill, pawing with th jab and leaning on people while gassing out does not show skill. WladimIr Klitschko has power and thats it. He has no stamina, no head movment, no pressure, no footwork, no blazing speed, no combos, no chin, he paws with the jab and leaves it out alot, all he does is look for the big right hand and he holds when the opponent gets to close.

...WORST POST EVER!!! Do you recall that Byrd didn't slip those punches from Wlad? Your logic is totally off when you say that Byrd is great at slipping punches, Wlad is slow and unskilled, yet he kicked the crap out of Byrd twice. lol lol

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.....The Davaryl statement is probably the dumbest thing I have ever seen the smartest guy on these boards say. Williams was on his bicycle and Wlad was right on the verge of taking total control even with the cut. The knockdown was a flash one and no big deal.


....Your second bolded statement has some merrit in that Wlad will always make me a little nervous. I do believe his chin is better than most think it is but I will always be on the edge of my seat during his fights, and that's part of what makes it fun to watch.

.....Thirdly, you may be right, but I want Wlad to take that challenge and prove you wrong. I would love to see him stomp the **** out of Sanders while torturing him for 8-9 rounds.

What are you doing questioning me (thats against the rules)?

I would love to watch the Williamson fight with you- I would show you things you have never seen before.

[beez721]

[QUOTE=Hitman932;2198839]sugar shane moseley loves to paw with his jab and hold it out and even leave his hand open, which is illegal, why is it alright for him to do but not wlad??

wladamir also has good movement, he can slip punches without taking himself out of punching position and that is a very real skill that a boxing fan whp pays attention can see with his own eyes....

his handspeed is among the top at the heavyweight level... doesent throw combos..... go back and watch the byrd fight after the 1st knockdown and watch the blazing handspeed and 3-4 punch combos that wlad throws when he backs byrd to the ropes... no other heavyweight can match him on both levels.

he also left hooks off his jab as good or better than just about anyone in the world regardless of class[/QUOTe


shouldnt have even responded to the clown. they all know this they just cant deal with a white european being on top so they have to look for things to discredit them

[PBDS]

What are you doing questioning me (thats against the rules)?

I would love to watch the Williamson fight with you- I would show you things you have never seen before.

....Alright, but what does that have to do with the Williamson/Wlad fight?

[beez721]

True.
Also, his level of competition isnt steller, and it doesnt seem as though he wants to unify the division...

lol,,,he fought a whole slew of top 10 and 20 guys. byrd twice,,,mccline,,,peter,,,brock,,,williamson,,merc er,,,barret,,,botha,,,shulz,,and his goal is to unify. the comedy is appreciated though

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....Alright, but what does that have to do with the Williamson/Wlad fight?

What does it have to...damn boy are you slow?

Blood and Pain, you dig boy?

[kayjay]

skill?? the way Toney and Byrd slip punches and fire back counters takes skill, the way mosley and de le hoya set up 6-7 punch lighting fast combos shows skill, pawing with th jab and leaning on people while gassing out does not show skill. WladimIr Klitschko has power and thats it. He has no stamina, no head movment, no pressure, no footwork, no blazing speed, no combos, no chin, he paws with the jab and leaves it out alot, all he does is look for the big right hand and he holds when the opponent gets to close.

You need to read j's thread "all about the jab."

[oldgringo]

Wlad has never really grabbed my attention as being some great fighter. You can see the skill is there...when coupled with the size it makes for a good fighter.

I still liked Vitali infinitely more. Vitali had some cajones and could take a shot while dishing one out. He didn't have to hold onto his man whenever the presence of danger loomed. He was more skilled than a lot give him credit for too, especially in regards to his brother. For instance that combination he starched Danny Williams with. That little uppercut in there was pretty nice.

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Wlad has never really grabbed my attention as being some great fighter. You can see the skill is there...when coupled with the size it makes for a good fighter.

I still liked Vitali infinitely more. Vitali had some cajones and could take a shot while dishing one out. He didn't have to hold onto his man whenever the presence of danger loomed. He was more skilled than a lot give him credit for too, especially in regards to his brother. For instance that combination he starched Danny Williams with. That little uppercut in there was pretty nice.

I too like VK better, a guy with a beard any day of the week over a guy without.

Unless were taking Julian Jackson!

[BrooklynBomber]

I too like VK better, a guy with a beard any day of the week over a guy without.

Unless were taking Julian Jackson!

Well, he did not end up all too great either, did he?