Jermain Taylor vs. Edison Miranda?

[Njord777]

Nah Bro Taylor will not be afraid to get hit. His fights with Bhops and Winky gave him the confidence that Miranda's power won't affect. Not yet. Taylor won't be intimidated by a fighter who failed to finish off an opponent with a craked jaw. Got the point?

I'm not saying that Taylor won't be hit. Everybody who gets into the ring gets hit. My point is Taylor won't be intimidated and rattled by Miranda's fighting style. Damn Bro Miranda failed to solve Green until the later rounds and that is when Green stopped using his jabs.

I agree that Jermain Taylor has fought good opposition as of late- but let's not paint them out to be something they aren't. None of his opponents in the last few years hit like Miranda did. An aging Hopkins? Crafty, yes. Skilled, yes. Intelligent, yes. A power puncher? No. How about Winky Wright? Not known for his punch. Kassim Ouma? You'd have to be kidding me.

Miranda is flawed. Looping punches, slow- but he's got a fighter's spirit. Jermain has some technical holes and his recent opponents have not prepared him for a puncher like Miranda. A guy who, in his last three fights, Shattered a man's jaw, knocked a guy senseless in the first round, and for all intensive purposes KOed a big mouthed fighter who most saw as too skilled to lose to him.

I stand by my point that once Taylor feels Miranda's power he'll adjust him game plan and Miranda will be able to steal rounds by being aggressive.

[phallus]

I agree that Jermain Taylor has fought good opposition as of late- but let's not paint them out to be something they aren't. None of his opponents in the last few years hit like Miranda did. An aging Hopkins? Crafty, yes. Skilled, yes. Intelligent, yes. A power puncher? No. How about Winky Wright? Not known for his punch. Kassim Ouma? You'd have to be kidding me.

Miranda is flawed. Looping punches, slow- but he's got a fighter's spirit. Jermain has some technical holes and his recent opponents have not prepared him for a puncher like Miranda. A guy who, in his last three fights, Shattered a man's jaw, knocked a guy senseless in the first round, and for all intensive purposes KOed a big mouthed fighter who most saw as too skilled to lose to him.

I stand by my point that once Taylor feels Miranda's power he'll adjust him game plan and Miranda will be able to steal rounds by being aggressive.

miranda and pavlik both could beat jermain taylor. here's why: taylor can't fight on the inside, and has good punching power but not devastating - junior middleweights grady brewer and kassim ouma went the distance with taylor. both miranda and pavlik ( green also ) are harder punchers than taylor, and all three of them can fight very well on the inside. miranda is stronger than ANYONE taylor's ever fought. if miranda, hurts JT at any point in the fight, and if they were to meet, he will hurt taylor, the whole momentum of the fight will slide over to miranda - because taylor will know he can't trade with miranda. taylor will need a another hometown decision to beat miranda, miranda needs to knock him the **** out, and he can.
pavlik would be a worse fight for taylor's rep, because pavlik would school and humilate taylor before knocking him out. miranda will just beat him up

[-Hyperion-]

miranda and pavlik both could beat jermain taylor. here's why: taylor can't fight on the inside, and has good punching power but not devastating - junior middleweights grady brewer and kassim ouma went the distance with taylor. both miranda and pavlik ( green also ) are harder punchers than taylor, and all three of them can fight very well on the inside. miranda is stronger than ANYONE taylor's ever fought. if miranda, hurts JT at any point in the fight, and if they were to meet, he will hurt taylor, the whole momentum of the fight will slide over to miranda - because taylor will know he can't trade with miranda. taylor will need a another hometown decision to beat miranda, miranda needs to knock him the **** out, and he can.
pavlik would be a worse fight for taylor's rep, because pavlik would school and humilate taylor before knocking him out. miranda will just beat him up

Pavlik's toooooo sloooooooooooooooooow for JT, JT would stop him mid rounds...

Miranda has a shot but he would probably get out boxed, i think Taylor can take some shots, hes been in there with Hop who may not be a ko puncher, but is very big and has good power in both hands

[psychopath]

I agree that Jermain Taylor has fought good opposition as of late- but let's not paint them out to be something they aren't. None of his opponents in the last few years hit like Miranda did. An aging Hopkins? Crafty, yes. Skilled, yes. Intelligent, yes. A power puncher? No. How about Winky Wright? Not known for his punch. Kassim Ouma? You'd have to be kidding me.

Miranda is flawed. Looping punches, slow- but he's got a fighter's spirit. Jermain has some technical holes and his recent opponents have not prepared him for a puncher like Miranda. A guy who, in his last three fights, Shattered a man's jaw, knocked a guy senseless in the first round, and for all intensive purposes KOed a big mouthed fighter who most saw as too skilled to lose to him.

I stand by my point that once Taylor feels Miranda's power he'll adjust him game plan and Miranda will be able to steal rounds by being aggressive.

I'm not saying that Bhops and Winky are power punchers, what I'm saying is that these two are crafty, shifty and tricky fighters and since Taylor measured up to what these two have brought inside the ring, it's not imposible for Taylor to solve and measure up to Miranda's fighting style.

Taylor will adjust his game plan? We'll no arguement on that because all fighters adjust gameplans. Those are the smart fighters buddy, but it's not because of being intimidated on the other guy's power, it's because the ultimate goal is to win the fight not just to show who has power.

[phallus]

Pavlik's toooooo sloooooooooooooooooow for JT, JT would stop him mid rounds...

Miranda has a shot but he would probably get out boxed, i think Taylor can take some shots, hes been in there with Hop who may not be a ko puncher, but is very big and has good power in both hands

pavlik is slow, but he's technically solid. i don't think JT is that much faster either. pavlik can time taylor, if he fights a smart fight he'll beat taylor. pavlik has all the tools.

miranda has the power and determination, he has more than a puncher's chance. his strengths take advantage of taylor's weaknesess

[Njord777]

I'm not saying that Bhops and Winky are power punchers, what I'm saying is that these two are crafty, shifty and tricky fighters and since Taylor measured up to what these two have brought inside the ring, it's not imposible for Taylor to solve and measure up to Miranda's fighting style.

Taylor will adjust his game plan? We'll no arguement on that because all fighters adjust gameplans. Those are the smart fighters buddy, but it's not because of being intimidated on the other guy's power, it's because the ultimate goal is to win the fight not just to show who has power.

I don't think you can say fighter's don't adjust their strategy based on how hard the other guy hits. I mean, being a smart fighter, if you realize the man across from you hits much harder than you imagined, you are going to modify what you do to stop from being hit. The goal is to win the fight- the goal is also not to get laid out. If you realize you have to play more defense to that, you will. Boxers end up changing their game plan all the time based on how hard a boxer hits.

My point is that Jermain is not prepared to get hit by Miranda, in my eyes, and that's the factor that will help Edison win a fight with Taylor. I see it like this.

Taylor starts slow, gives the first three rounds to Miranda.

Realizing he needs to step it up Taylor comes out, after urging from his corner, and uses his skill to out box and move from Miranda for the next 3 or 4 rounds.

Now, lulled into a sense of security by his ability to box and move Jermain has a lapse- allows Miranda to catch him in the 8th or a bit after and goes down for the night.

It's one possible prediction- which is all this thread is.

Miranda by late KO.

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[psychopath]

I don't think you can say fighter's don't adjust their strategy based on how hard the other guy hits. I mean, being a smart fighter, if you realize the man across from you hits much harder than you imagined, you are going to modify what you do to stop from being hit. The goal is to win the fight- the goal is also not to get laid out. If you realize you have to play more defense to that, you will. Boxers end up changing their game plan all the time based on how hard a boxer hits.

My point is that Jermain is not prepared to get hit by Miranda, in my eyes, and that's the factor that will help Edison win a fight with Taylor. I see it like this.

Taylor starts slow, gives the first three rounds to Miranda.

Realizing he needs to step it up Taylor comes out, after urging from his corner, and uses his skill to out box and move from Miranda for the next 3 or 4 rounds.

Now, lulled into a sense of security by his ability to box and move Jermain has a lapse- allows Miranda to catch him in the 8th or a bit after and goes down for the night.

It's one possible prediction- which is all this thread is.

Miranda by late KO.

Well if that's your call . . . so be it.

I've got it the otherway around. Taylor by K.O within 8. If it took Miranda 10 full rounds to figure out the "Lazy Green" who did really nothing to pressure him I don't see how Miranda could K.O. Taylor who never stop throwing jabs and straight combinations.

Basically this goes down to Taylor's straights against Miranda's looping punches.

[phallus]

Well if that's your call . . . so be it.

I've got it the otherway around. Taylor by K.O within 8. If it took Miranda 10 full rounds to figure out the "Lazy Green" who did really nothing to pressure him I don't see how Miranda could K.O. Taylor who never stop throwing jabs and straight combinations.

Basically this goes down to Taylor's straights against Miranda's looping punches.

when taylor clinches in the later rounds, to avoid getting nailed by miranda, pantera will club him behind the head with a few of those looping shots. on the inside, taylor is very open to looping shots, ouma hit him with enough looping right hooks to swell taylor's eye up bad. miranda is much bigger, stronger, and more determined than ouma

[Kid Achilles]

I think we can all agree that it would be a good fight, one of the best that can be made in boxing right now. I'd be more excited about Miranda-Taylor than I am about Mayweather-ODH.