Oscar fought 8 undefeated fighters....Floyd 1 !

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  • Deeznuts
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    #21
    Overall I still pick Mayweather to win just because of the circumstances Oscar is facing.

    1. He's inactive
    2. Has too much on his plate with all of his promotions
    3. He had to switch trainers and not only that, but seems like his old trainer is on PBF side which could damage his whole game plan
    4. He's older and slower than PBF.

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    • pbftxrs316
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      #22
      Originally posted by RAESAAD II
      could'nt agree more......PBF would have a few losses had he fought thru what DLH had fought thru over years and there is no question about it.
      1st of all, what weight class was hopkins in when he fought dlh, 160 and he knocked dlh down, and out with a body punch, so th efact that oscar lost to nard, floyd would too? don't think so. if they fought at 147 or 154, imo it would have been a great fight, with no sure winner. floyd would literally kill mosley at 147 imo, because floyd is a much smarter fight than mosley is, and floyd would still beat him. vargas, at 154 would have a tough fight, but imo floyd would have outclassed vargas, and in impressive fashion, but still a tough fight nonetheless, because all you have to do to vargas is take him out of his element one time, and that's it, he's lost. ike would have been a good fight, but floyd is too fast for ike. ike's jab is always a threat to any fighter, but i'd see floyd hooking off of his jab all night, and possibly stopping ike, but ike is a good opponent for floyd. i would have love to see floyd fight pernell, because they are both slick, but floyd's style is compared to pernell's style a lot, but pernell's defense and dodging of punches were unorthodox, so i don't see their styles as too similar which would have made for a great showdown with no clear winner beforehand.

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      • Parody
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        #23
        Originally posted by Deeznuts
        I did some research (boxrec) to see how Oscar has competed against undefeated fighters because he is fighting one soon. Well Oscar has fought 8 fighters and lost 2 of those matches against Trinidad and Mosley. The Trinidad loss can be argued but so can the Sturm and Whitaker win. But was surprised me more is that Mayweather only has fought and defeated one undefeated fighter and it was Diego Corrales. Just stating some facts.......
        EDIT: Oscar fought 8 undefeated fighters with padded records who were blown up in weight - sure some could be good, Floyd fought one who went on to do great things in boxing; became a 2 weight champions and won the fight of the year award for his fight with castillo.

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        • BigDog9
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          #24
          PBf hasnt faced and fought no one good he onli fights to make his money, thats why he picks money fights, if it was for this fight with this much at stake he owuldnt have ofught he would have retired already. oscar has all the experience and his a true fighter.

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          • freedom213
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            #25
            Originally posted by cortdawg25
            yeah that is true, but a lot of those fighters were on outrageous win streaks. Genaro Hernandez hadn't lost at 130 when him and floyd fought. He was being considered one of the greatest 130 lber ever. Corrales was the only undefeated fighter though, but he was giving the business to everyone before Floyd fought him though. And I think Ndou had 1 lost and Baldomir was undefeated for a long time as well. manfredy had a crazy win streak too. Oscar has fought the better comp but the only thing is that Floyd would prolly still be undefeated if he fought the same comp as Delahoya....
            really? you mean you don't give shane Mosley, Felix Trinidad, Ike Quartey and lets go ahead and count Whitaker too a slight chance of beating PBF? Dude you better think about that.

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            • freedom213
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              #26
              Floyd fans please stop being so foolish. You dont need kryptonite around your neck to beat this guy. Castillo arguably beat him the first time and he isn't half the fighter many of the previously mentioned undefeated greats were in the period that DLH fought them. Go back and watch some footage of these guys

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              • Parody
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                #27
                Originally posted by freedom213
                Floyd fans please stop being so foolish. You dont need kryptonite around your neck to beat this guy. Castillo arguably beat him the first time and he isn't half the fighter many of the previously mentioned undefeated greats were in the period that DLH fought them. Go back and watch some footage of these guys
                Whitaker, Sturm and Quartey Arguably beat DLH.

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                • CoLd_WaVE
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Parody
                  Whitaker, Sturm and Quartey Arguably beat DLH.
                  the Whitaker fight was a close fight... the Sturm fight was bull****... Quartey went down in the 12th, and that did him in...

                  PBF's first Castillo fight was a loss....

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                  • !! $iN
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                    #29
                    Pbf > Dlh

                    Floyd is better than Oscar De La Hoya, hands down. I don't think anyone would argue that Floyd is the most skilled fighter they have seen in a long, long time.

                    While I won't argue that Oscar has fought the better opposition, I will say that when he has stepped up to top opposition the fights have always been close. He has received so many gift decisions and been in many close fights, it's ridiculous. His wins over Pernell Whitaker, Ike Quartey, and Felix Sturm were straight up gifts. You can maybe argue about the Quartey fight, but he lost the other two fights hands down. When you throw in the losses to Mosley twice, Trinidad, and Hopkins, that means Oscar has no clean victories over any elite fighter in his career. He has many clear wins over good fighters, but not a single clean victory over an elite, P4P level fighter.

                    PBF, on the other hand, has destroyed each and every single opponent he has faced. He has had one close fight (first Castillo fight) in his entire career and many believe the closeness was due to Floyd fighting with one good arm due to injury. After that close decision win, he rematched Castillo immediately and beat him convincingly just like everyone else he's fought. Castillo is not just some run of the mill opponent either. He is a P4P level fighter that was just taken to school.

                    Corrales is another P4P fighter who was completely demolished. Honestly, if you had never heard of or seen Corrales before that fight, you would think he was just a club fighter. Chico was undefeated, never down in his career up to that point, and Floyd put him on his ass 5 times on the way to a KO victory. When Floyd has stepped up to the elite fighters, he not only beat them, but crushed them.

                    Another thing, DLH has always run from rematches in close fights he won. When he got that ridiculous gift against Whitaker, why didn't he try to clear things up by giving a rematch? How about against Quartey and Sturm? Oscar was happy to get the gift and he wouldn't take the rematch because he knew these were fighters he just could not beat. Floyd, on the other hand, the one time he had a close fight manned up and fought Castillo again immediately. Floyd wanted to clear the air and prove who really was the better fighter and he did just that. Oscar didn't have the heart to prove he is better than those fighters and that the close fights were just flukes...

                    The one problem Floyd has had in his career that has prevented him from making more marquee fights is that he's not the type of draw that Oscar is. Everyone wants to fight Oscar because win, lose, or draw they are going to get a fat check when the night is over. The risk against Oscar is worth the reward and, frankly, fighters know they have some sort of shot at beating Oscar. Oscar doesn't have the aura of invincibility that Floyd has and he never did.

                    Against Floyd, his opponent will get a good payday, but not a great one. This prevents some of the upper echelon fighters from wanting to fight Mayweather. Ricky Hatton has asked for 13 million when he's never even made a third of that for a fight. Mosley wants a big payday to make the fight happen. The other elite fighters just don't feel the risk is worth the reward to fight Mayweather when he can potentially crush them and ruin any future paydays. As we have seen, the only fighters actually willing to fight Mayweather are the ones who don't have a big name to put on the line. If Floyd Mayweather had the drawing power of DLH, he would not only be fighting all of the best fighters out there, he would be beating them convincingly...

                    PBF>DLH

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                    • Emon723
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                      #30
                      thats why cant understand how floyd nuthuggers thinks differently, this is dela hoya, he aint baldomir or castillo.

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