Roy Jones Jr. ; Was He The Best Super Middleweight ?

[Jim_Davis]

Watch Eubank get dropped solidly by Nigel Benn. Youve never seen Toney be dropped that viciously EVEN AFTER HE MOVED UP TO HEAVYWEIGHT! Watch Eubank whine like a little ***** to the referee to after he was dropped. This clown is a would get schooled by a prime RJJ. IT WOULDNT EVEN BE CLOSE. You biased nuthuggers want to tell me this guy had a better chin than Toney and would have beat RJ? Sad....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YWg3W57HGAE

You underestimate Benn's power.

[hemichromis]

I suppose Nigel Benn is a harder hitter than Sam Peter too.. You red karma giving British pansy. Excuses, excuses, excuses.. How could I expect any unbiasedness here.. Most Brits Ive spoke to have actually told me that David Beckham is one of the greatest athletes in the world... Sad..Cant debate with people like you. Intellectually dishonest with yourself and others .. You put heritage and country before truth.

so your american suporting an american but you arent bias

but a brit supporting a brit is bias


your an Imbecile
even more red karma coming your way!!

[The Noose]

the punch caused a slip, eubank wasn't even slightly hurt.

I agree 100%.

Eubank was as tough as they come.

[.Mik.]

I suppose Nigel Benn is a harder hitter than Sam Peter too.. You red karma giving British pansy. Excuses, excuses, excuses.. How could I expect any unbiasedness here.. Most Brits Ive spoke to have actually told me that David Beckham is one of the greatest athletes in the world... Sad..Cant debate with people like you. Intellectually dishonest with yourself and others .. You put heritage and country before truth.

I hugely doubt the validity of that. I dont know any English people who would say such a thing and there is no way in the world that many people from Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland would even admit to him being especially good, let alone one of the greatest athletes in the world.

Sounds like something you made up on the hope that it'd help you look good in an argument...it didnt.

[me2007]

my honest opinion is RJJ is not the greatest super middleweight ever....far from it...
His record is extraordinarily padded out with less than credible opponents and he only travels to fight within spitting distance of his home.

He beat Hopkins early in his career...so what....Hopkins lost his first fight to an unknown...

RJJ has avoided, intentionally or not, too many of the great super middleweights in his era..

a long unbeaten stretch of fights means nothing these days, especially when there are so many titles and bum fighters out there.

Anyone can look great knocking out these unknowns ... putting your hands behind your back and all the other crap....

How he has made a career without fighting a single great super middleweight fighter I have no idea.

[Jim_Davis]

True, you have to go to war with the best fighters from your era if you want to be called the best.

[!!! Beowulf !!!]

True, you have to go to war with the best fighters from your era if you want to be called the best.

I think there is no doubt that Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank fought the best competition at 168 pounds. They certainly should be considered above Jones in the 168 all time rankings.

Benn fought: Sugar Boy Malinga (1-1), Mauro Galvano, Chris Eubank, Henry Wharton, Gerald McClellan, Vincenzo Nardiello and Steve Collins (Benn was shot by the time he fought Collins, the G-Man fight had really ****ed him up).

Eubank fought: Michael Watson, Sugar Boy Malinga, Nigel Benn, Graciano Rocchigiani, Henry Wharton, Steve Collins and Joe Calzaghe.

Steve Collins fought and beat a shot Benn and an off colour Eubank. Still not insignificant accomplishments.

Calzaghe fought: Eubank (past his prime, but still a handful), Reid, Woodhall, Starie, Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell and Lacy. Given his longevity as well and you have a fighter with a more credible claim (than Jones Jr) to be the greatest supermiddle ever.

[-Hyperion-]

my honest opinion is RJJ is not the greatest super middleweight ever....far from it...
His record is extraordinarily padded out with less than credible opponents and he only travels to fight within spitting distance of his home.

He beat Hopkins early in his career...so what....Hopkins lost his first fight to an unknown...

RJJ has avoided, intentionally or not, too many of the great super middleweights in his era..

a long unbeaten stretch of fights means nothing these days, especially when there are so many titles and bum fighters out there.

Anyone can look great knocking out these unknowns ... putting your hands behind your back and all the other crap....

How he has made a career without fighting a single great super middleweight fighter I have no idea.

so dominating p4p#1 at that time, james toney, isnt beating the best competiton, destroying Malinga is easy??????please.............

[wmute]

I think there is no doubt that Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank fought the best competition at 168 pounds. They certainly should be considered above Jones in the 168 all time rankings.

Benn fought: Sugar Boy Malinga (1-1), Mauro Galvano, Chris Eubank, Henry Wharton, Gerald McClellan, Vincenzo Nardiello and Steve Collins (Benn was shot by the time he fought Collins, the G-Man fight had really ****ed him up).

Eubank fought: Michael Watson, Sugar Boy Malinga, Nigel Benn, Graciano Rocchigiani, Henry Wharton, Steve Collins and Joe Calzaghe.

Steve Collins fought and beat a shot Benn and an off colour Eubank. Still not insignificant accomplishments.

Calzaghe fought: Eubank (past his prime, but still a handful), Reid, Woodhall, Starie, Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell and Lacy. Given his longevity as well and you have a fighter with a more credible claim (than Jones Jr) to be the greatest supermiddle ever.

Best competition is called JAMES TONEY