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  • IronDanHamza
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    #51
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    I havent seen the whole of the PBFv Castillo fights, only bits and pieces. I have read on many occasions that PBF lost both fights. Obviously i dont believe this, but ive heard it more than once for some reason.
    In 2007 you hadn't seen the Mayweather-Castillo fights?

    When did you start following Boxing?

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    • hugh grant
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      #52
      Well, the experts have Floyd where he should be, and that somewhere behind Pac, so he is rated just about right, unless you think BH should be above him, or JC.

      But he is overated in the sense that everything rests on that unbeaten record of his. He is a defense wizard, but there is much more to being great than that.

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      • STREET CLEANER
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        #53
        Apparently the TS just started to watch boxing

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        • Light_Speed
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          #54
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          In 2007 you hadn't seen the Mayweather-Castillo fights?

          When did you start following Boxing?
          Casual fan exposed.

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          • Brother Jay
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            #55
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Well, the experts have Floyd where he should be, and that somewhere behind Pac, so he is rated just about right, unless you think BH should be above him, or JC.

            But he is overated in the sense that everything rests on that unbeaten record of his. He is a defense wizard, but there is much more to being great than that.
            Nothing rests on any unbeaten record you idiot.

            Being unbeaten against the #1, 2 and 3 is a tremendous accomplishment in itself, but that isn't it.

            Name another fighter outside of Roy Jones in the last 20 years that came up division after division beating the best in those divisions while they were still the best? The best being of course the #1, 2 & 3 in those divisions.

            Name them! Pacquiao NEVER fought a top 3 at either WW or jrMW. Therefore he was never even #3 at either of those weights. What's more embarrassing is that Pacquiao has been competing at these weights since 2008. Its 2012 and he hasn't done anything but target #5's and use catchweights to win paper titles in both divisions.

            There is no case to be made for Pacquiao being in the top 5.

            Why?

            Who has Manny beaten to warrant such a ranking?

            At WW, Manny ONLY fought men who were first recently beaten by other boxers first. Six in a row to be exact.

            Pac-tards try to cite meaningless tune-ups to explain away Pacquiao's cowardice, but they are always unsuccessful.

            Here's another question for pac-tards: Why is it that everytime Pacquiao doesn't
            fight someone coming off a loss or a catchweight, there's either controversy(JMM) or a loss(Bradley)? Why is it since 2008 that Pacquiao has had to drain or target losers to look like a winner?

            Mayweather is simultaneously #1 at WW and jrMW. Yet pac-tards are somehow trying desperately call for Pacquiao to be rated even close to Floyd?

            Hahahahahahaha ... I have to laugh at your pain as it really is amusing. Pacquiao is rated at #5 for a reason. The smoke has lifted and its time to tally up what he's really done. Even many pac-tards admit nowadays that he's a sham above 135lbs.

            Pacquiao wasn't rated #1 BEFORE the Bradley match. And that's just P4P lists. Pacquiao hasn't been the #1 in any division since 2008 .. and even that is questionable because most believe that JMM beat him in all three fights!

            Despite all of this, Hugh Grant aka PacSchmiegel does his best to protect his "precious". He is obsessed with his "precious". And he is not alone. There are legions of pac-tards obsessed with the "precious". They have a completely unilateral relationship with the "precious" which leads them to embarrassing lengths of devotion masked as national pride.

            Hence them desperately trying to position Pacquiao above a man who has always fought better ranked competition throughout his entire career with better results.

            Peasant dreams: Bradley crushes them. Mayweather doesn't even know you exist.

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            • mushahadeen
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              #56
              Originally posted by me2007
              whats all the fuss about mayweather
              Floyd is great.
              Pac is great.

              People need to stop discrediting fighters just because they don't like them, or they're rivals with their favorite fighter-- it's effing ******.

              It's enough already.

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              • hugh grant
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                #57
                Originally posted by Brother Jay
                There is no case to be made for Pacquiao being in the top 5.

                Why?

                Who has Manny beaten to warrant such a ranking?

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                Well, he beat Cotto, who Floyd ducked for years for starters. He beat hatton at hattons best weight and ko'ed him in 2. Floyd wouldnt ever ko hatton in 5 rounds let alone 2. Floyd wouldnt ever stop DLH, any version hed never stop.

                SO whatever way you look at it, Pac deserves to be above Floyd in anyones rule book.

                If Floyd beating a bloated JMM after 2 years out gives Floyd a no2 ranking and Sergio beating Paul Willimans gives him a no3 ranking, Pac has done plenty to justify being no1, lets not even discuss no5.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 07-01-2012, 07:36 PM.

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                • jcpryor
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by hugh grant
                  Well, he beat Cotto, who Floyd ducked for years for starters. He beat hatton at hattons best weight and ko'ed him in 2. Floyd wouldnt ever ko hatton in 5 rounds let alone 2. Floyd wouldnt ever stop DLH, any version hed never stop.

                  SO whatever way you look at it, Pac deserves to be above Floyd in anyones rule book.
                  Hasn't Cotto gone on the record stating that he was never in pursuit of a Mayweather fight until just recently?? How can Mayweather duck someone that never called him out?

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                  • -Kev-
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Well, he beat Cotto, who Floyd ducked for years for starters. He beat hatton at hattons best weight and ko'ed him in 2. Floyd wouldnt ever ko hatton in 5 rounds let alone 2. Floyd wouldnt ever stop DLH, any version hed never stop.

                    SO whatever way you look at it, Pac deserves to be above Floyd in anyones rule book.
                    Have you still watched Maidana fight yet?

                    Have you see Mayweather-Castillo yet?

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by jcpryor
                      Hasn't Cotto gone on the record stating that he was never in pursuit of a Mayweather fight until just recently?? How can Mayweather duck someone that never called him out?
                      well the fact is Floyd has too casual approach to fighting and making fights. If Floyd had of beat Cotto, it would have been a great win for Floyd, just like it should be, and was for Pac.

                      So why is brother jay embarassing himself by asking who has Pac fought type questions when Pac beating Cotto is better than anything Floyd had did?

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