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  • Addison
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    #371
    I was looking at stuff on Youtube and it surprised me that so many comments up there were indecisive.. You wouldn't think there's any doubt if you talk to me, Freedom, Hoff, G, Robo, Gringo, Fix, Welter, ect..

    I can't see how the other side see's what they see, and I can't see how anyone could be indecisive.. Cotto is ****ing mincemeat.


    It's a beautiful thing though..

    Some of us will be as pumped as their entourages on fight night.


    The neighbors know if my guy is winning by how loud I get..

    I'll be making some noise too. Believe it baby.


    Cotto is going to get cut down like the little bull he is.

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    • AIR_KENG
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      #372
      whoever connects the first solid punch to the chin wins the match...

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      • Bonsi
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        #373
        Originally posted by AIR_KENG
        whoever connects the first solid punch to the chin wins the match...


        true that, they're both vicious finishers that can punch. but i see Judah connecting first...

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        • The Troll
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          #374
          Originally posted by AIR_KENG
          whoever connects the first solid punch to the chin wins the match...
          Wrong. One straight right or left uppercut isn't going to stop Cotto. Everybody talks about how powerful Zab Judah is but who has he really stopped? Stun him maybe. I think Cotto could hurt him, put him on ***** street with his right though not mentioning his left hook.
          Last edited by The Troll; 06-01-2007, 08:01 AM.

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          • -Spectre-
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            #375
            I'm with AIR_KENG

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            • Addison
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              #376
              Originally posted by AIR_KENG
              whoever connects the first solid punch to the chin wins the match...
              If that is true I only see that going in Cotto's favor in generic terms..

              At least; based on how Judah reacted when he got hurt by Baldomir.

              Cotto on the other hand has recovered from getting hurt with much aplomb.

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              • freedom213
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                #377
                Originally posted by Addison
                If that is true I only see that going in Cotto's favor in generic terms..

                At least; based on how Judah reacted when he got hurt by Baldomir.

                Cotto on the other hand has recovered from getting hurt with much aplomb.
                this was exactly what I was talkin about with Judah. he gets hit, he gets stunned and he reacts as Teddy Atlas would say not like a fighter should. We should all know by round 4 what the outcome will be in this fight. If Zab can move in and out without taking significant damage and fight a disciplined boxing match he has a very legitimate chance to pull off the upset. But this is really asking a duck to not be a duck. Judah wont fight that way for long if he does at all. He will get drawn into exchanges when he shouldnt and he will live by the sword or die by it. man I cant ****in wait!

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                • Addison
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                  #378
                  Originally posted by freedom213
                  this was exactly what I was talkin about with Judah. he gets hit, he gets stunned and he reacts as Teddy Atlas would say not like a fighter should. We should all know by round 4 what the outcome will be in this fight. If Zab can move in and out without taking significant damage and fight a disciplined boxing match he has a very legitimate chance to pull off the upset. But this is really asking a duck to not be a duck. Judah wont fight that way for long if he does at all. He will get drawn into exchanges when he shouldnt and he will live by the sword or die by it. man I cant ****in wait!
                  Nice, Freedom. I'm glad I'm not having to pass my feeling on this through a filter of advisory input..

                  If I was - you would have me clutching a bit.

                  This is what we're here for. Tantalizing stuff.


                  It works - if this can be put into an equation.


                  See, the Cotto advocates are making the massive leap in assumption that Cotto is on the next level of competition.

                  ..........That he's at the world class level.

                  (This mistake was made with Jeff Lacy, David Reid, Gerry Cooney, ect.)

                  To be fair - that is a total UNKOWN.


                  All in all, the question of this fight for me is fundamental.

                  For any Cotto theory to work; he has to be of comparable skill and capability to Zab Judah.

                  I'm afraid, in my mind, he is not.

                  No equation. Does not compute. Error. Error.

                  On top of that, even if they were on the same level of skill and capability Cotto does not have the arsenal to foil a Zab Judah.

                  Here's a quote from someone else online on our subject..

                  The guy know's what he's talking about.

                  "....Eh, bad fight for Cotto. Like the kid a lot but the way to beat Judah is to beat him with straight rights imo. Though another way is to have him backing up a lot without having him moving side to side a lot and it wouldn't be unreasonable for Cotto to accomplish this while scoring to the body with the hooks and break him down there. But I think it's a bad style matchup for Cotto."
                  Last edited by Addison; 06-02-2007, 04:46 AM.

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                  • Addison
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                    #379
                    Originally posted by Addison
                    Nice, Freedom. I'm glad I'm not having to pass my feeling on this through a filter of advisory input..

                    If I was - you would have me clutching a bit.

                    This is what we're here for. Tantalizing stuff.


                    It works - if this can be put into an equation.


                    See, the Cotto advocates are making the massive leap in assumption that Cotto is on the next level of competition.

                    ..........That he's at the world class level.

                    (This mistake was made with Jeff Lacy, David Reid, Gerry Cooney, ect.)

                    To be fair - that is a total UNKOWN.


                    All in all, the question of this fight for me is fundamental.

                    For any Cotto theory to work; he has to be of comparable skill and capability to Zab Judah.

                    I'm afraid, in my mind, he is not.

                    No equation. Does not compute. Error. Error.

                    On top of that, even if they were on the same level of skill and capability Cotto does not have the arsenal to foil a Zab Judah.

                    Here's a quote from someone else online on our subject..

                    The guy know's what he's talking about.

                    "....Eh, bad fight for Cotto. Like the kid a lot but the way to beat Judah is to beat him with straight rights imo. Though another way is to have him backing up a lot without having him moving side to side a lot and it wouldn't be unreasonable for Cotto to accomplish this while scoring to the body with the hooks and break him down there. But I think it's a bad style matchup for Cotto."
                    Reid's eye was jacked up but the result was the same.. Gotta have both.

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                    • Amaro
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                      #380
                      koysta tszyu

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