Roach: "Mayweather, Jr. Not A Complete Fighter"

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  • pbftxrs316
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    #11
    a complete fighter to me isn't about having the most power or most speed or best defense bottled up into one style, it's about how you respond to every fighter no matter at what weight. so what floyd doesn't stand in trade with bigger fighters, his gameplan and adaptation to that fighter is what makes him complete in my eyes.

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    • Sinisterevo
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      #12
      Floyd is a great boxer but he can be beat just like any other fighter can. The good thing about Roach training Oscar is hopefully he will help him with his stamina in the later rounds.

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      • cortdawg25
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        #13
        Originally posted by ThaHorseman
        At his natural weight and even a little above, yes he can. Its when he gets to 154 that he really won't be able to stand in with DLH. He usually stands toe-to-toe with everyone unless he breaks his hand. Thats not saying the he lets himself get hit, but when do you see him go almost completely defensive? When his hand is hurt. Floyd will do a lot of sticking and moving against DLH, win a UD and get ripped apart because he didn't stand in front of DLH and let himself get beat up.
        Kayjay obviously hasn't seen many of his fights, because he just recently stalked Judah to a stoppage just last year. Can't stand toe to toe with a man about 10 - 15 lbs bigger than you maybe, but he stands toe - toe in almost every fight in the lower weights. Plus why would you stand toe-toe when your best chance of winning is to use your mobility against slower bigger men. I don't understand it with some people. How can you criticize someone for doing what gives them the best chance to win. Isn't that why we play sports to win, why must he fight with his B game to get a win. Only Floyd they ask of this, it's crazy...

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        • cortdawg25
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          #14
          Originally posted by Sinisterevo
          Floyd is a great boxer but he can be beat just like any other fighter can. The good thing about Roach training Oscar is hopefully he will help him with his stamina in the later rounds.
          Can Roach really help him with his stamina? He couldn't with James Toney, they had to bring Billy Blanks!!!

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          • Chups
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            #15
            No fighter is complete anyway.

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            • Double
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              #16
              Originally posted by cortdawg25
              Can Roach really help him with his stamina? He couldn't with James Toney, they had to bring Billy Blanks!!!
              James Toney pretty much trains himself, i think James decided he needed Blanks to help his stamina.

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              • hugh grant
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                #17
                Dont need Roach to tell us Mayweathers shortcomings. Mayweather does essininetally the same thing everytime he boxes, but he does what he does extremely well. To beat him you have to do your own thing that you do well as well as he does what he does well.

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                • cortdawg25
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Double
                  James Toney pretty much trains himself, i think James decided he needed Blanks to help his stamina.
                  I don't think Toney really trains himself, it's that Roach incapable of instilling any discipline In Toney to train properly during training and that is why he felt he needed Billy Blanks

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                  • gixxer
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by pbftxrs316
                    roach has his opinions but whatever. say what you want freddie. we'll see just how complete of a fighter floyd is when he picks apart your golden come may 5th. there's nothing roach can do that will stop mayweather from punishing(there goes that word again) oscar and he will punish him dearly.
                    THAT BOY COULDNT PUNISH BALDY....WHO IS SLOWER WEAKER AND NOT AS SMART .....DELAHOYA IS GONNA MAKE OF FOOL OF THIS GUY.....FLOYD IS GONNA FEEL THE HURT THEN HES GONNA RUN ALL NIGHT ...A GAME OF CAT AND MOUSE THIS TYME MOUSE GETS EATEN

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                    • STEELHEAD
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                      #20
                      floyds fragile paws may come into play and oscars ability to get down in weight and build stamina.
                      wouldnt be suprised to see a snoozer.

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