Pavlik is too raw for the top Middleweights

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  • Knicksman20
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    #31
    Originally posted by RunW/Knives
    Yeah that's one of Pavlik's biggest flaws. It's been a while since I've seen a guy with that style do that....and even though he can land accurate punches, he lapses too much. Mckart and Zertuche caught him flat footed and those guys can't break an egg by throwing it at the wall.

    Pavlik is a badass....but people are hyping him up way too much. He's a methodical technician with a good offense and moderate inside defense.

    Do you people really think he can beat Jermaine Taylor? I think Taylor would knock him out. He's way too accurate and puts punches together. The difference is.....Taylor isn't Zertuche: LOL. He's a lengthy guy who can crack when he gets leverage on his punches....not a guy straight off the street selling oranges.
    I agree with you on this one. I also think Miranda stops him in a wild shootout. Pavlik has good power but Miranda has the equalizer: legitimate 1 punch KO power.

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    • Run
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      #32
      Originally posted by kayjay
      I sure don't, but he's certainly a top five - ten middleweight and a solid puncher, which makes him a future Taylor opponent and someone who should be able to earn the shot.
      Yeah that's about right.

      Everyone wants to see more of Pavlik including me...he OBVIOUSLY deserves a shot. He's been fighting for 7 years, is undefeated and did a good job in his last outing...stopping a guy who had never been.

      I've always held people in high regards for stopping durable opponents...for instance Corrales gained big time respect from me for stopping Castillo in the first fight, Miguel Cotto gets a ton of credit from me for stopping Olivera and Quintana, Wlad gets credit for stopping Mercer even though Mercer was old, etc. That kind of stuff is impressive.

      I'd be more impressed though if Pavlik stopped a guy his size and make. Zertuche looked like the perfect guy for Pavlik to just unload on.



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      • abdiel2k3
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        #33
        u think pavliks to raw for jermain
        Lol
        and too raw for miranda
        LMao
        the irony

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        • Run
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          #34
          Originally posted by abdiel2k3
          u think pavliks to raw for jermain
          Lol
          and too raw for miranda
          LMao
          the irony
          This is where I post the .gif of Taylor on ***** street in the 12th round when he was hit by the only remote puncher he's ever faced in his career.

          lol@Hopkins power compared to Mirandas.



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          • bishop2006
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            #35
            Originally posted by abdiel2k3
            u think pavliks to raw for jermain
            Lol
            and too raw for miranda
            LMao
            the irony
            Exacly,i dont see how Pavliks to raw for Miranda when Pavliks gota the better boxing skills,and the better defence,some people are just copying what Kellerman said about the LAPSES,but this is boxing,ur gna get hit sometimes,****,u shud b happy a guy his size and with his power has got good boxing skills and dont abandon it

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            • niceguy45
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              #36
              Originally posted by PRboxingfan
              The problem with Pavlik is the way he throws his punches. Some of them look like they're lazy punches and any good counterpuncher (like Wright) would exploit that weakness to no end. He also telegraphs too much which leaves himself open and off balance.

              He's a nice guy, tho, and seems like he's go good character and is good for boxing, but I don't think he has the skill to be up at the top. Not yet, anyway.
              pavlik'spunches are kinda slow so i think from a top middleweight fighter like taylor will give a lot of problems to pavlik, but i think he is right up there

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              • Pantera2000
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                #37
                We shall see.
                It seems like Pavlik is gonna have to face Miranda soon (I hear May-June).
                He better sharpen up his skills. Those 'lapses' are not gonna work well against Miranda.
                Last edited by Pantera2000; 01-29-2007, 03:01 PM.

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                • Pac_attack
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                  #38
                  anyone has the KO video?

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                  • Atnan
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                    #39
                    my sig is good enuff for you^^^^ you guys need to stop repeating what kellerman said.....both taylor and miranda are sloppy as **** and pavlik only was to worry about his conditioning and tightening his d up a lil

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                    • abdiel2k3
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by bishop2006
                      Exacly,i dont see how Pavliks to raw for Miranda when Pavliks gota the better boxing skills,and the better defence,some people are just copying what Kellerman said about the LAPSES,but this is boxing,ur gna get hit sometimes,****,u shud b happy a guy his size and with his power has got good boxing skills and dont abandon it
                      it wasnt so much his bad d as zertuches good offensive attack
                      he was mixing it up well

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