NAZ vs PAC

[Mr. Ryan]

most people just remeber the recent fighters right now.

Manny recent fight are KO against Morales who in fact i someone could make an argument didnt want to fight when he was against MAB the third time and the pre-fight interview which is claimed by the commetator durign the third fight.

anyway before Pac KOed him he was UD by Zahir Raheem and the third time he was already going down and everybody in here knew it even in the second pac fight where his father wasnt in his conrner and adviced him to retire.

Barrera fight Barrerra was abit ****y and underestimed Mannys power he was in front of Manny the whole time and as you know Barrera is a multi-dimisional fight and he could have boxed around and not stay toe-to-toe with Manny if he knew he had the power.

so each one you could have an argument.

and you forgot the advance of reach and how it is effective against manny in the first fight against Morales that means if they slug out it Probably Hamed punchs comes to Manny more than manny punchs coming to Hamed and including the akward slips style too.

You can have all the advantages of reach you want, doesn't mean a lot if you don't jab. And about the excuses of Pacquiao's wins, then you can send an email to the commission and have the results overturned to No Contest, OK?

[eazy_mas]

Yup, the avaerage Brit knows Tyson Lewis Benn Eubank and Naz If ur lucky Holyfield!

many people even outside boxing knows Nassem Hamed Tyson and Ali. that is something unversial.

Nassem Hamed was that good to be know widely.

He is like Roy Jones jr domintating his class but he own flaw was himself

[K-DOGG]

Hamed was overrated. The reason he's getting such a strong pull is because in addion to his power and speed he had a dynamic personality. People are affected by that and are voting with their hearts based in nostalgia. When it comes down to it, the fist time he was really challenged, he failed. Manny would challenge him as much, if not more than Barrera....and Hamed would fail again. He didn't have depth.

[.Mik.]

Here's the tally so far

Pacquiao: 38

Hamed: 21

I guess it's a show and tell sport, and the show is everything.

Well, considering that PAC is a current high P4Per and the popular opinion of Naz is that he became an arrogant lazy prick who wasted his potential and ran away from boxing the first time he got beat...I'd say this was a pretty good score for Naz.

[eazy_mas]

You can have all the advantages of reach you want, doesn't mean a lot if you don't jab. And about the excuses of Pacquiao's wins, then you can send an email to the commission and have the results overturned to No Contest, OK?

your telling that Nassem ducked Marquez and i replyed the same as sitaution as pac could be.

you claimed that Nassem fought bums then as nearly as same as pac you could say but some oppenet you really cant tell how good he is because usually in boxing you need couple of loss so you are not concidered highly and maybe sometimes you are consider overrated if you where impressive. dont blame the compition that Nassem Hamed had.


reach could help if you could punch long hooks and straight lefts as well as slugger it out. If you want couple of Sanchez fight example of the Gomez fight where Sanchez uses his reach when he sluggfest with Gomez in the fight and Gomez miss some of his shots.

[Mr. Ryan]

your telling that Nassem ducked Marquez and i replyed the same as sitaution as pac could be.

you claimed that Nassem fought bums then as nearly as same as pac you could say but some oppenet you really cant tell how good he is because usually in boxing you need couple of loss so you are not concidered highly and maybe sometimes you are consider overrated if you where impressive. dont blame the compition that Nassem Hamed had.


reach could help if you could punch long hooks and straight lefts as well as slugger it out. If you want couple of Sanchez fight example of the Gomez fight where Sanchez uses his reach when he sluggfest with Gomez in the fight and Gomez miss some of his shots.

So you're saying Pacquiao is ducking Marquez, when Marquez refused a $800,000 purse? I dunno about that

Hamed fought bums and lost to the only elite fighter he fought. Pacquiao beats top quality opponents. Hamed never was Ring Magazine's Fighter of the Year.

[Mr. Ryan]

Well, considering that PAC is a current high P4Per and the popular opinion of Naz is that he became an arrogant lazy prick who wasted his potential and ran away from boxing the first time he got beat...I'd say this was a pretty good score for Naz.

Most of them are JuyJuy's alts, though.

[.Mik.]

Most of them are JuyJuy's alts, though.

That would make a nice easy explanation, wouldnt it?

[The Surgeon]

many people even outside boxing knows Nassem Hamed Tyson and Ali. that is something unversial.

Nassem Hamed was that good to be know widely.

He is like Roy Jones jr domintating his class but he own flaw was himself

That good or that Flashy and Arrogent and entertaining? For me its the Later, u cant justify throwin him up there with Tyson and Ali

[eazy_mas]

So you're saying Pacquiao is ducking Marquez, when Marquez refused a $800,000 purse? I dunno about that

Hamed fought bums and lost to the only elite fighter he fought. Pacquiao beats top quality opponents. Hamed never was Ring Magazine's Fighter of the Year.

well you cant really say they where bums. have you seen the Rocky 6 movie?

Nassem Hamed in his prime was like Mason Dixion in the movie he was really good and far better that his competitiors so could you really say that all his guys are bums.


so what evidiece could you present that say the purse was 800K some other guys in this site like xcarat and many mexician boxing fans claim that Pac is ducking Marquez.

but my argument is about Hamed ducking Marquez is that Hamed is a southpaw with and akward style that is very hard to couter and akward style like Hamed and Hamed was reach and experince would have finished him off.

old pac who was 1D that time and Marquez got a draw from the fight even though he was knockdown three times in the fight and pac couldnt finish him off so Marquez say ducked Pac but that idea he would have ducked Hamed when he was less experince and Hamed was like unbeatenable

som compare the two sitaution its either Marquez is ducking bothing fighters or both fighters are ducking Marquez and i know what is you answer is in.

this long argument just reminded me of Gunstar1 sign saying " Arguing about Fantasy Fights is ******!' i think he is right

anyway lets agree disagreealy