Watching Wlad vs Peter again...

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  • beez721
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    #51
    Originally posted by Smokin'
    Watch every Klitschko fight after 4 rounds. After the 4th round he turns into a lumbering, clumsy ********. The fight against TOS, especially. When he's in there with a guy that's made for him to look good...he looks great. But when he's fighting a guy who won't lay down and will actually try to lay some leather on him...he goes into panic-mode.
    when he goes into panick mode he does get sloppy and all off balance. this I agree with and he was awful in the dv williamson fight

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    • PBDS
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      #52
      ....Smokin is trying to fill the void left by his favorite neighbor and fellow Canadian.

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      • Smokin'
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        #53
        Originally posted by beez721
        I dont listen to anything the clowns on HBO say. I watch fights with my eyes not my ears. all knowledgable boxing insiders and trainors marvel about wlads handspeed. freddie roach,, manny steward,,and Al bernstein are just 3 examples. so you clearly have only watched him at his worst or you dont like him and are being biased. which one it is I dont know
        He is fast for his size....He sure as hell aint fast though. I mean look at that jab of his. It's real stiff but it is also really slow. And lately all he does with it is paw with it. He has considerable height and reach over all of his opponents which is why it lands easy.

        He's the best HW of a BAD bunch...big deal.

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        • Smokin'
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          #54
          Originally posted by pbds
          ....Smokin is trying to fill the void left by his favorite neighbor and fellow Canadian.
          Dude, pbds you are a Wlad realist. Please tell me the **** I am saying isn't at least 50% true. I am not just talking ****. I am right most of the time.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Smokin'
            Dude, pbds you are a Wlad realist. Please tell me the **** I am saying isn't at least 50% true. I am not just talking ****. I am right most of the time.



            ....I have my fingers in my ears going la la la la la la la la la

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              #56
              Originally posted by Smokin'
              Dude, pbds you are a Wlad realist. Please tell me the **** I am saying isn't at least 50% true. I am not just talking ****. I am right most of the time.
              ....Wlad's footwork has been very good at times. It was great in the Byrd fight, not so good in the Peter fight. It tends to go downhill when he's tired, hurt, or panicked. His hands are very fast. Ask any heavy that's had to deal with his speed. How does he easily touch one of the most elusive heavies of this era in 2 fights?? Don't say it's his reach either because Byrd has handled guys with longer arms than Wlad and was able to keep from being consistently hit. If your legs and footwork don't put you into proper position then you can't throw the punches that create the damage. How can you have **** footwork and be a succesful heavyweight who knocks people out?

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                #57
                Originally posted by pbds
                ....Wlad's footwork has been very good at times. It was great in the Byrd fight, not so good in the Peter fight. It tends to go downhill when he's tired, hurt, or panicked. His hands are very fast. Ask any heavy that's had to deal with his speed. How does he easily touch one of the most elusive heavies of this era in 2 fights?? Don't say it's his reach either because Byrd has handled guys with longer arms than Wlad and was able to keep from being consistently hit. If your legs and footwork don't put you into proper position then you can't throw the punches that create the damage. How can you have **** footwork and be a succesful heavyweight who knocks people out?
                It was easy to catch Byrd because Byrd had to get inside in order to beat Wlad. He didn't even try to get inside. Byrd's inside game is foreign too him which is Why Wlad picked him off.

                And yeah...Wlad's footwork isn't good. He's off balance alotof the time and clumsy. Also, like I said he doesn't move in and out and i've never seen him actualyl close the gap to get a guy with an uppercut (by the way, which he never throws). His footwork is totally non existent.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Smokin'
                  It was easy to catch Byrd because Byrd had to get inside in order to beat Wlad. He didn't even try to get inside. Byrd's inside game is foreign too him which is Why Wlad picked him off.

                  And yeah...Wlad's footwork isn't good. He's off balance alotof the time and clumsy. Also, like I said he doesn't move in and out and i've never seen him actualyl close the gap to get a guy with an uppercut (by the way, which he never throws). His footwork is totally non existent.



                  ....He actually added the uppercut a little in the Brock fight. Interesting you should bring that up because he is about to really start using that punch IMO. If Manny could just teach him how to sneakily hold the back of his opponents head with his left hand and then pull the head forward into his right uppercut, he would have the Lennox Lewis manuever down pat.

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                    #59
                    Smokin is a hater. I wonder if anyone could explain the ulterior motives behind such zealous hate.

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                    • Welter_Skelter
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by pbds
                      ....He actually added the uppercut a little in the Brock fight. Interesting you should bring that up because he is about to really start using that punch IMO. If Manny could just teach him how to sneakily hold the back of his opponents head with his left hand and then pull the head forward into his right uppercut, he would have the Lennox Lewis manuever down pat.
                      He SERIOUSLY needs to add an Uppercut to his arsenal... SERIOUSLY!!!!

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