Astalavista Toney

[mic573]

i think toney could have overtrained for this fight, but it's probably more like he made a mistake in judgement to try and brawl with a stronger guy, he should have planned on being the smaller, quicker, guy not standing and trading. fire his shots and get the **** out of the way

In order to do that he must be dedicated and lose the weight. He can't move well at the weight he's been fighting at. If he wasn't so lazy he would still be a cruiserweight.

Since he's moved to heavyweight, his weight has increased with each fight.

[BodyHead Banger]

props to the gorilla lookin muh****a

[GattiFan]

I dont know...

So...peter triples up on the jab against Wlad?

Hes going to out jab wlad?

Adding the jab, crazy uppercut and good body work improved Peter 100%..

Still....He loses every second of every round again IMO. And if he doesnt throw huge looping shots behind the head...he doesnt even have the knockdowns from the first Wlad fight.

I just dont think he has the tools all put together to beat Wlad.

He will however... destory Oleg. Sick early KO

[restless_438]

Like everyone else.. i see Oleg as a virtual "stepping stone" for Peter at this point...

however, the way Wlad's looked lately, if the two (Peter-Wlad) fight before 2007 is over with, i don't really give Peter much of any chance IMO

i will say i think Peter did manage to improve drastically in the rematch tonight and i'll give him respect for it

[realheavyhands]

i think toney could have overtrained for this fight, but it's probably more like he made a mistake in judgement to try and brawl with a stronger guy, he should have planned on being the smaller, quicker, guy not standing and trading. fire his shots and get the **** out of the way

your exactly right toney put too much muscle on and should of took off more fat the only muscles toney shouldve been workin are lats neck and abs and poly metrics not no bench press and arms thats slowed him down way too much

[RAESAAD]

How about it?!

Yeah man Toney is done.......and I think only because he is a HW.He still has good enough power to be dominant at CW but not HW.He can still beat most guys at HW but does anyone really wanna see that>No of course not....we would rather see Peter crush people with lesser chins than Toney...Like nearly anyone else......ya man has a granite chin.Anyway it is much more entertaining to think about Peter fighting the top guys rather than Toney......

[mic573]

A Klitscko/Peter rematch to me would be more competitive now that Peter has improved alot on his game. When they first met Peter was nothing but a knockout artist. Now he's more complete and has a pretty good jab.

I still see Klitschko winning a decision but I think he will have to earn it the hard way.

[RAESAAD]

A Klitscko/Peter rematch to me would be more competitive now that Peter has improved alot on his game. When they first met Peter was nothing but a knockout artist. Now he's more complete and has a pretty good jab.

I still see Klitschko winning a decision but I think he will have to earn it the hard way.

True indeed but picture this scenario.........Wlad has got his confidence back which is good for his offense but bad for his defense........a more aggresive Wlad in a rematch because of his new confidence could mean 2 things....he finshes Peter which I doubt or gets caught by a huge puncher which I think is more likely.........lets not get things confused....former MW or not Toney has a better chin than even a natural HW Wlad ever will.

[Red_Menace]

I dont know...

So...peter triples up on the jab against Wlad?

Hes going to out jab wlad?

Adding the jab, crazy uppercut and good body work improved Peter 100%..

Still....He loses every second of every round again IMO. And if he doesnt throw huge looping shots behind the head...he doesnt even have the knockdowns from the first Wlad fight.

I just dont think he has the tools all put together to beat Wlad.

He will however... destory Oleg. Sick early KO

I agree. No way Peters beats Wlad with a jab. If Peters sits back and tries to jab, wlad will tear him apart. Only way Peters wins is getting inside fast and throwing big shots to the body and then the head. Punchers chance, but Wlad most likely wins it much in the same fashion as the first fight.

[juggernautburn]

I agree. No way Peters beats Wlad with a jab. If Peters sits back and tries to jab, wlad will tear him apart. Only way Peters wins is getting inside fast and throwing big shots to the body and then the head. Punchers chance, but Wlad most likely wins it much in the same fashion as the first fight.

i say peter should take some tips from brock except the getting knocked out part (except i don't think that will happen anyway). what i'm talking about is he should go to the body a lot like brock did, but also hit wlad in the face like brock was incapable of doing. brock was in there until he got knocked out, peter won't get knocked out and i think he has a pretty damn good chance against wlad.