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  • Parody
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    #41
    Originally posted by Stromprophet
    Peter has never really been hit has he? So what are you judging his chin on?

    Wlad almost floored him with a straight, not a looping power hook, 1 straight. I don't know if he has such a good chin.
    He was hit many times by Wlad. I dont know what your talking about, Peter has the best chin in the division.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Parody
      He was hit many times by Wlad. I dont know what your talking about, Peter has the best chin in the division.
      Watch the last round against Wlad, it was 1 straight that wobbled Peter and almost made him chicken dance.

      Wlad fought that entire fight defensively, Peter got jabbed most of the night.

      Best Chin in the division? Show me when he has ever taken one square on the chin from a power puncher aside from maybe Wlad.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Stromprophet
        Watch the last round against Wlad, it was 1 straight that wobbled Peter and almost made him chicken dance.

        Wlad fought that entire fight defensively, Peter got jabbed most of the night.

        Best Chin in the division? Show me when he has ever taken one square on the chin from a power puncher aside from maybe Wlad.
        Name atleast three fighters who do you think have a better chin than Samuel Peter?

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        • Stromprophet
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          #44
          Originally posted by Parody
          Name atleast three fighters who do you think have a better chin than Samuel Peter?
          In the HW division? I don't know. Honestly. But that doesn't mean Peter has the best. And you didn't answer my question either. Have you ever seen Peter get clocked by a Heavy handed HW?

          Cause that's the proof. It's the reason we question Wlads chin, cause he got rocked right on the chin by some haymakers.

          You said he has the best Chin in the division, I think that is debatable. For one Valuev probably does have a better chin...we've seen him get hit with some really big haymakers.

          But is it his chin? Or the fact he is so tall that the haymakers don't do as much? Just sayin, what is your reasoning for claiming Peter has the best chin in the division?

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            #45
            How can Peter claim he has dynamite in his fists when he cant knock a Supermiddleweight out who is nearing 40years old.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Stromprophet
              In the HW division? I don't know. Honestly. But that doesn't mean Peter has the best. And you didn't answer my question either. Have you ever seen Peter get clocked by a Heavy handed HW?

              Cause that's the proof. It's the reason we question Wlads chin, cause he got rocked right on the chin by some haymakers.

              You said he has the best Chin in the division, I think that is debatable. For one Valuev probably does have a better chin...we've seen him get hit with some really big haymakers.

              But is it his chin? Or the fact he is so tall that the haymakers don't do as much? Just sayin, what is your reasoning for claiming Peter has the best chin in the division?
              You dont think Wladimir Klitschko is Heavy handed? The guy who TKO'd Chris Byrd and Calvin Brock won a close decision against Samuel Peter while knocked down three times, Wladimir Hit Peter Hard and Peter did'nt get knocked down, I think your being a little biased here, Everyone clearly know Peter has the best chin in the HW division right now, You could hit him with a hammer and it wont put him down (Non-Exaggeration).

              Peter got tested by Wlad's power and anyone who says Peters chin has'nt been tested is clearly out of it/does'nt follow the sport. Who do you think Peter should fight to get his chin Tested when Wladimir Klitschko is the most powerful hitter in the division behind Peter.

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                #47
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                How can Peter claim he has dynamite in his fists when he cant knock a Supermiddleweight out who is nearing 40years old.

                Its getting out of hand now "He could'nt knock out a Super middleweight" etc... James Toney has one of the best chins and lets just put it to that, A fighter like Toney could fight for decades without being hurt because of his style, his defense is great, hardly gets hit, and when he gets hit he takes it flush without being hurt.

                Bernard Hopkins and James Toney are just those kind of fighters who can not be knocked out because of their chin, defense, and ring intelligence. very smart fighters.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Parody
                  You dont think Wladimir Klitschko is Heavy handed? The guy who TKO'd Chris Byrd and Calvin Brock won a close decision against Samuel Peter while knocked down three times, Wladimir Hit Peter Hard and Peter did'nt get knocked down, I think your being a little biased here, Everyone clearly know Peter has the best chin in the HW division right now, You could hit him with a hammer and it wont put him down (Non-Exaggeration).

                  Peter got tested by Wlad's power and anyone who says Peters chin has'nt been tested is clearly out of it/does'nt follow the sport. Who do you think Peter should fight to get his chin Tested when Wladimir Klitschko is the most powerful hitter in the division behind Peter.
                  You're comparing the fights wrong. The fights against Byrd and Brock were much easier.

                  1) Klitscho was not worried that much about their power.
                  2) Klitscho fought defensive against Peter, not Offensive till the later rounds when Peter ran out of Juice.

                  Most of the fight Klitscho was backing up against Peter, How was he throwing his hardest shots backing up??

                  You need to watch the fight again, Wlad worked his jab a lot in that fight. And he will not knock you out with a jab, it's his 1-2 with the cross that got rid of Brock and Byrd. And almost got rid of Peter. Would you disagree that Wlad wobbled him?

                  I just don't think Peters chin has been tested enough to say he has the best Chin or that you could hit him with a sledge hammer and he would still be there. The only real heavy handed HW he has fought has been Wlad.

                  What other tests has his chin faced?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Stromprophet
                    You're comparing the fights wrong. The fights against Byrd and Brock were much easier.

                    1) Klitscho was not worried that much about their power.
                    2) Klitscho fought defensive against Peter, not Offensive till the later rounds when Peter ran out of Juice.

                    Most of the fight Klitscho was backing up against Peter, How was he throwing his hardest shots backing up??

                    You need to watch the fight again, Wlad worked his jab a lot in that fight. And he will not knock you out with a jab, it's his 1-2 with the cross that got rid of Brock and Byrd. And almost got rid of Peter. Would you disagree that Wlad wobbled him?

                    I just don't think Peters chin has been tested enough to say he has the best Chin or that you could hit him with a sledge hammer and he would still be there. The only real heavy handed HW he has fought has been Wlad.

                    What other tests has his chin faced?
                    Thats the problem, he wobbled him several times in the last round yet he was unable to knock him down, do you know what it means when someone says a fighter has a good chin? means can take a lot of punches clean flush on the chin and does'nt get knock down/knock out. Thats the case with him, Wlad wobbled him yet was'nt able to knock him down. We can have a poll here and see the opinion of other people, who they think has the strongest chin in the HW division, I guarantee you majority will tell you Peter, you say it has'nt been tested enough, so who could test Peter's chin right now? you tell me. Wlad punches harder than any of the current champions.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Parody
                      Thats the problem, he wobbled him several times in the last round yet he was unable to knock him down, do you know what it means when someone says a fighter has a good chin? means can take a lot of punches clean flush on the chin and does'nt get knock down/knock out. Thats the case with him, Wlad wobbled him yet was'nt able to knock him down. We can have a poll here and see the opinion of other people, who they think has the strongest chin in the HW division, I guarantee you majority will tell you Peter, you say it has'nt been tested enough, so who could test Peter's chin right now? you tell me. Wlad punches harder than any of the current champions.
                      Sadly we don't have a whole lot of HW that could really test his chin. That's what I'm saying.

                      Wlad isn't the biggest puncher I don't think, just the best fighter in the division.

                      There are some guys with heavier hands, I think Brewster was heavier handed (I don't know if he'll ever be the same though), Briggs for the first few rounds is probably one of the biggest punchers.

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