** British Boxers...why the lack of fights in the US?**

[Orishaman]

The US may be seen as the be all and end all for Puerto Ricans, but Germany and the UK are big places and have Boxing markets that are perfectly standalone. Of course Germany is even more crooked than the USA when it comes to Boxing, but they've had some successful fighters.

In an ideal world, boxers would fight around the globe. Unfortunately that isn't going to happen.

I am not saying they don;lt have markets that revenue in similar fashion to the US, it not about that I been in Europe and UK plenty of times, and Japan has a similar boxing market, etc....but the fact is that in order to be recognized World Wide yu ahve to do it as boxer thru the USA.....that's what I am saying...in the US who the fu** care about the European Champ or the Brit Champ or the Irish Champ, here in the USA is about the WORLD CHAMP and Ricky and Joe C definitevely have the credentials to do that!!

[!!! Beowulf !!!]

I am not saying they don;lt have markets that revenue in similar fashion to the US, it not about that I been in Europe and UK plenty of times, and Japan has a similar boxing market, etc....but the fact is that in order to be recognized World Wide yu ahve to do it as boxer thru the USA.....that's what I am saying...in the US who the fu** care about the European Champ or the Brit Champ or the Irish Champ, here in the USA is about the WORLD CHAMP and Ricky and Joe C definitevely have the credentials to do that!!

The world is about the WORLD CHAMP. The US isn't neccessary for someone to be world champion.

[Run]

Sorry to break this news to you but: The US is the mecca of entertainment, theres no doubt about that, you want to be big on something you come to the US...and in all honesty the fact that you made that comment, led me to beleive that maybe that;s the reason...pride.....sure Joe C is making enough money in UK and Europe but his pedigree has suffered for that, plus he could command far more if he would come to the US.....Ricky is stating to learned that, but his expiriience was almost ruined by Collazo...creating the inuendos reference to....

God I've been typing the same thing for ages now.

None of the Brits ever listen. It's not about "homerism" or anything like that....and this isn't a National rivalry thing. It's the truth.



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[!!! Beowulf !!!]

God I've been typing the same thing for ages now.

None of the Brits ever listen.

You're a Septic, of course you think septicland is the centre of the universe: It isn't.

[Run]

You're a Septic, of course you think septicland is the centre of the universe: It isn't.

That's just not true.
you are denying the basic fact the U.S.A. is the mecca of professional boxing.



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[Hydro]

Like it or not this trend dimish what ever possible glory they can grab in Europe to merley inunedos of "Ok great but can they win in the US" and in all honesty dimished their accomplishments...Lennox wsa the only Britsh boxer that I can recall that clearly understood the importance of fighting in the USA, hell the Klithsckos finally got it......and they came to the US to fight.....

Hamed did it too. He had his best win in Europe against Johnson but had a his share of fights and won a couple of titles in the U.S. too.

[The Surgeon]

That's just not true.
you are denying the basic fact the U.S.A. is the mecca of professional boxing.

I woulda thought that was because most of the good fightsers are from that continent (Along with the larger tv audiences) but these guys are number1 in there division in a country that luvs to watch them fight and Tv times aint a problem, just stage the fights later. Id like to see them win big in the States, get sum respect then return to the UK to defend! After all THEY are the champions, its the americans/rest of the world that wants there spot! Got great respect for Lacy cumin over here and Zoo, especially Tszyu seen as he was the champ! But i wouldent expect say Hopkins cumin here to fight Joe since it would be Joe steppin up to challenge him, u know? I dont think this is unfair

[Orishaman]

The world is about the WORLD CHAMP. The US isn't neccessary for someone to be world champion.

Let me just say this: Sure you can win world title anywhere in the world, no doubt, but to be LEGITIMIZE ou need to make your mark in the USA..this is not an attack on Euro or Brit boxing or any other place in the world, but is a fact...Manny Pacquiao won title in the PI's but it was not until he won the title over Lebwada in the USA and HBO that he shot into STARDOME....itm is a fact....

[!!! Beowulf !!!]

That's just not true.
you are denying the basic fact the U.S.A. is the mecca of professional boxing.

It's probably the number one place for Boxing at the moment, true enough. That won't always be true though. In Calzaghe's division the US isn't exactly a major player.

[GEOFFHAYES]

Kevin Mitchell said he'd rather fight at the York Hall (the home of boxing) than at the MGM Grand, and that winning the Lonsdale belt outright would mean more to him than winning the WBC title. He does plan on winning the WBC title and fighting at the MGM Grand, but it wouldn't mean as much to him as winning the Lonsdale belt outright at the York Hall.

Carl Froch said likewise. And Naseem Hamed asked Ryan Rhodes if he wanted to swap his Lonsdale belt for the WBC belt - Ryan declined!

Good ****.