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  • Stallone himself says it was based on Ali-Wepner, and Wepner responded by suing Stallone using his own words as evidence...

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    • I just finally watched it last night and thought it was pretty good.I agree with the things you say Ice but I did find it more realistic than I thought I would due to Mason breaking his hand and all that.......It was also very inspirational and heart warming how he and his son got close again.......good flick.

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      • Let's see, i remember watching a clip from the Oscars, or some other award show, and i think it was in the 70s, right when Stallone was the man. While Sly was giving a speech, Ali came out and said things like ''I was Appolo Creed! You made him out to be me!'' something like that. But it was all in fun, and they kind like shadow boxed eachother on stage. Just sharing.

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        • Rocky and Ali

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          • Ken Norton's name also comes up as being the influence of Creed but you can tell by watching the filmes that Creed is much more like Ali then anyone else.

            I think Sly just took small parts of a few boxers that were big at the time and based the characters from the mesh.

            Real name Robert Balboa
            Nickname The Italian Stallion,
            Phliadelphia's Favorite Son,
            The Philadelphia Slugger,
            The Iron Horse from Philadelphia
            Weight Heavyweight
            Nationality Italian American
            Birth date 1946
            Birth place Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
            Style Southpaw
            Boxing record
            Total fights 82
            Wins 57
            Wins by KO 54
            Losses 24
            Draws 1
            No contests 0
            Real name Apollo Creed
            Nickname The Dancing Destroyer
            The Master of Disaster
            The King of Sting
            The Count of Monte Fisto
            Weight Heavyweight
            Nationality American
            Birth date 1948
            Birth place Los Angeles, California, USA
            Style Orthodox
            Boxing record
            Total fights 50
            Wins 47
            Wins by KO 46
            Losses 2
            Draws 1
            No contests 0
            Real name James Lang
            Nickname The Hard-Hitting Brawler
            The Southside Slugger
            Weight Heavyweight
            Nationality American
            Birth date 1953
            Birth place Chicago, Illinois, USA
            Style Southpaw
            Boxing record
            Total fights 72
            Wins 71
            Wins by KO 71
            Losses 1
            Draws 0
            No contests 0
            Real name Ivan Drago
            Nickname The Siberian Bull, Death from Above
            Weight Heavyweight
            Nationality Russian
            Birth date 1960
            Birth place mexico city
            Style Orthodox
            Boxing record
            Total fights 32
            Wins 31
            Wins by KO 31
            Losses 1
            Draws 0
            No contests 0

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            • The FACT that Creed is based on Ali has been known for 30 years now. There is NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER that Creed is based on ALi.

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              • Originally posted by THE REAL NINJA View Post
                Ken Norton's name also comes up as being the influence of Creed but you can tell by watching the filmes that Creed is much more like Ali then anyone else.

                I think Sly just took small parts of a few boxers that were big at the time and based the characters from the mesh.
                Do you have Spider Rico's record?

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                • Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                  Do you have Spider Rico's record?
                  It's not on wiki but it might be on the vid games .
                  Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY View Post
                  The FACT that Creed is based on Ali has been known for 30 years now. There is NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER that Creed is based on ALi.
                  I might have been Ken Norton himself that said it. I can't remember where I heard it from right this sec but I agree I know it's mainly Ali I was just pointing out that there are others that claim that parts of Creed are based on Norton.
                  Last edited by THE REAL NINJA; 03-30-2007, 09:59 PM.

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                  • Rocky, The Movie - The Kenny Norton story or the real Apollo Creedhttp://www.talkingboxing.com/article...ampnorton.html

                    The character of "Apollo Creed" in the Rocky movie was initially going to be played by Norton, however when he pulled out, Carl Weathers was selected.http://www.answers.com/topic/ken-norton This must be where the mix up comes from .

                    The actor that played Spider Rico was a real boxer ? Pretty funny stuff .http://www.ringsidereport.com/rsrboa....php?=&p=23073

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                    • I thought I may have found Spider Rico's record but the site crashed my computer. It must be a secret!

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