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  • #11
    Originally posted by Googler View Post
    hey Super_Lightweight,

    Go watch the Urango fight and then lets talk about fixing fights. The decision was made in ur home turf buddy.
    there is many robbers in boxing but in Germany and England seem to favor the hometown fans.

    that is normal thing even if you look Augustus v Burton in Michagan and there was hometown boy fighting.

    I think Miranda is going to fight in Germany because he knows he is going to KO Abraham for sure. if you have a broken chin it wont grow stronger in month or two and sometimes in a half year depends on the break itself but now Abraham chin becoms more fragili

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    • #12
      the Ben Rabah fight was reffed by my uncle, so I would know. You were not there. Fights are different LIVE, and my uncle thought in the RING that Urango won a close decision. Then he said when he watched it on film it looked like Ben Rabah won it.

      You have no proof more fights have been fixed in the U.S., but for DAMN sure a higher PERCENT of Germany's fights have had very questionable actions involved with them.

      The favoritism shown towards Dariusz and Ottke was enough to make a club fighter a title holder.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Googler View Post
        hey Super_Lightweight,

        Go watch the Urango fight and then lets talk about fixing fights. The decision was made in ur home turf buddy.
        There's home town decisions everywhere. Urango was as bad as it gets. But you can't even compare the **** that happens in Germany to Urango getting a few extra rounds than he should have.

        When a ref is demanded to continue a fight by the promoter (who is no more than a spectater) and not listen to the doctor or a fighter, well, I would say that is a whole different level of corruption my friend. But whatever, lesson learned.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Super_Lightweight View Post
          the Ben Rabah fight was reffed by my uncle, so I would know. You were not there. Fights are different LIVE, and my uncle thought in the RING that Urango won a close decision. Then he said when he watched it on film it looked like Ben Rabah won it.

          You have no proof more fights have been fixed in the U.S., but for DAMN sure a higher PERCENT of Germany's fights have had very questionable actions involved with them.

          The favoritism shown towards Dariusz and Ottke was enough to make a club fighter a title holder.
          I was there too. Much closer fight in person, but most people around me thought Ben Rabah pulled out a victory. I watched it on TV later and thought Ben Rabah won clearly.

          Very true what you say. It amazes my how different some fights look on TV!

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          • #15
            ^^^ Plus, a ref isn't as concentrated on scoring as he is looking out for hard shots and fouls that could cause some pain. Hence the harder blows of Urango getting attn from some people live.

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            • #16
              It doesnt matter what ur uncle though. The fight was fixed. And yes the future of boxing is in Europe. Name me some American heavyweight prospects or some up and comers. For every 1 u name I can name 5 Eastern Europeans. And yes they are going to be dominating the sport in a few more years.

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              • #17
                Urango was passive throughout the whole fight and CLEARLY lost the fight.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Super_Lightweight View Post
                  the Ben Rabah fight was reffed by my uncle, so I would know. You were not there. Fights are different LIVE, and my uncle thought in the RING that Urango won a close decision. Then he said when he watched it on film it looked like Ben Rabah won it.

                  You have no proof more fights have been fixed in the U.S., but for DAMN sure a higher PERCENT of Germany's fights have had very questionable actions involved with them.

                  The favoritism shown towards Dariusz and Ottke was enough to make a club fighter a title holder.
                  Teddy Atlas thought Ben Rabah won.

                  for me i gave 2 round for Urango at most and the 8 rounds to ben Rabah. He did very well as if he took Ted Atlas advice and used it. and instead of hitting the straight right hand a typcail way to to beat a southpaw he used the uppercut and moved around the ring.

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                  • #19
                    It doesnt matter what ur uncle though. The fight was fixed.
                    Eh, you can't prove it, so just hush up about it. It's one fight anyway.

                    Let's make this simple. You think Europe is the future of boxing because you LIVE there. Unfortunately for you, all the big fights happen in the U.S. no matter WHAT nationality the fighters are. Pac-Morales, De La Hoya-Mayweather, Klitschko-whoever, even Valuev is coming to the states now.

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                    • #20
                      Hey bro I live here in LA. The reason why boxers come to the USA is because there is a lot of money going around in the sport. Let me put it this way so ull understand. The boxers that are going to be dominating the sports are going to be from E. Europe or Europe.

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