I'm not racist, I just don't like "thug" fighters.

**PATO 1** · 12-19-2006, 12:23 PM

i dont understand how pbf is a ''thug'' the guy is just arrogant an self assured
his lifestyle isnt that of a thug , goin back to were you were born and handing out food , paying for your old school's basketball team to enter a national tournament isnt thug like

**The Surgeon** · 12-19-2006, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by Kid Achilles

Zab Judah, Floyd Mayweather, James Toney, Shannon Briggs. The attitude these guys put on just rubs me the wrong way. It's the same way with rap, I enjoy listening to the music, enjoy the beats, but I can't stand the image and lifestyle.

Some of my favorite fighters, Sam Peter, Edison Miranda, Lamon Brewster, Danny Williams, etc are black but I just can't go for the thug thing. It's against almost everything I stand for to be so flashy and materialistic and to condone casual violence with guns.

This does not make me a racist. I just don't like that lifestlye/image.

I like ALL the fighters uve said u like and dislike, In person, on a personal level i probably wouldnt like JT, PBF, ect. but im a fan of there work in the ring and i like watching the Volitile Toney go off on 1 at press confrences and ****! But i see what ur saying, just dosent bother me that much coz that aint talking **** to me

**The Surgeon** · 12-19-2006, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by El Temible

i dont understand how pbf is a ''thug'' the guy is just arrogant an self assured
his lifestyle isnt that of a thug , goin back to were you were born and handing out food , paying for your old school's basketball team to enter a national tournament isnt thug like

Beating women is a bit thuggish

**Kid Achilles** · 12-19-2006, 12:29 PM

You are correct in that PBF is the least thug fighter of those mentioned, but he parties at clubs during training, is flashy in his personality and dress, and there is the wife beating controversy that I don't recall him ever being completely cleared of in the media.

My problem with Mayweather stems more from his proclamation that he is the greatest fighter that ever lived when his resume at this stage of his career comes up short to meeting that claim. But I do think he tries to project a thug persona, even if he's not that way in real life. Paul Malignaggi is the same way. Not really a thug at all, but tries to play it. I don't like him much either, and he's even italian (my dominant ethnicity and what I identify myself as) which gives him a few points.

**PATO 1** · 12-19-2006, 12:32 PM

[QUOTE=Kid Achilles;1997746]You are correct in that PBF is the least thug fighter of those mentioned, but he parties at clubs during training, is flashy in his personality and dress, and there is the wife beating controversy that I don't recall him ever being completely cleared of in the media.
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i agree with what your sayin except that

**Kid Achilles** · 12-19-2006, 12:34 PM

Are you saying he doesn't go clubbing, or that you don't think it's a bad thing that he does?

**jack_the_rippuh** · 12-19-2006, 12:43 PM

I believe you.

**PATO 1** · 12-19-2006, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Kid Achilles

Are you saying he doesn't go clubbing, or that you don't think it's a bad thing that he does?

i dont think he goes clubbing durin trainin he kills himself in the gym, yeah after his fights he might

**Guest** · 12-19-2006, 12:48 PM

I don't consider Toney and Mayweather thugs. Judah is definetely a thug. Toney and Mayweather are just big **** talkers. I don't see how you can dislike these two, yet be a fan of Miranda who is one of the biggest **** talkers in the sport...

I'm not racist, I just don't like "thug" fighters.