Roberto Duran

[shortright]

just one fighter hagler does he get praised, trust me if you guys seen duran fight in his prime you would understnad why so many people rate him so highly it that simple boxrec doesnt tell you nothing really you have to watch to understand a fighters carreer

[kayjay]

C'mon buddy I too am familiar with Duran mostly from his later (anytime after about '80-'81) fights but he had I think over 70 fights before 1980. I want to watch more of his lightweight fights (a few have been on Classic but not too many I don't think) and I'll wait until I do before I decide whether he is under-, over- or appropriately rated. Please do the same.
By the way people consider him an ATG at 135, not 160 or even 147 (even though he diud beat Leonard).

On a side note, I like to think Frazier-Ali I counts more than the others, does anyone think it would be reasonable to say the same of Leonard-Duran?

[monkeyboy]

Sometimes I really despair.
You get so-called fans disparaging a man who rose up through a huge amount of ranks to fight at way above his natural weight BECAUSE HE CLEANED OUT OTHER DIVISIONS, who then fights at an advanced age against some of the best fighters in boxing history, truly a golden age.

They then leap to the defense of men who pick and choose favorable fights on a whim and hurl obscenity if you disagree.

Duran is truly a standout boxer, incomparible to just about anyone for his accomplishments, undeniably one of the most eager boxers (retired just 5 years ago) and easily stands in anyone's top ten of all time, if not top three.

We will never see another Duran. If you guys don't appreciate him then it's your loss. You might try watching some of his fights. You'll learn something.

[bigtime9]

You get so-called fans disparaging a man who rose up through a huge amount of ranks to fight at way above his natural weight BECAUSE HE CLEANED OUT OTHER DIVISIONS, who then fights at an advanced age against some of the best fighters in boxing history, truly a golden age.

They then leap to the defense of men who pick and choose favorable fights on a whim and hurl obscenity if you disagree.

Duran is truly a standout boxer, incomparible to just about anyone for his accomplishments, undeniably one of the most eager boxers (retired just 5 years ago) and easily stands in anyone's top ten of all time, if not top three.

We will never see another Duran. If you guys don't appreciate him then it's your loss. You might try watching some of his fights. You'll learn something.

fighting becase yorbroke desn'y makeyou great..

[shortright]

fighting becase yorbroke desn'y makeyou great..

reading boxrec doesnt mean you know,

[Verstyle]

for the little i have seen of duran. (just stating my opinion on what ive seen) he does look overrated and not that impressive

[The Noose]

Duran was 71-1-0 (55 ko) as a Lightweight.
He jumps 2 weights to face Sugar Ray Leonard at Welterweight and beats him.
3 years later he wins the Junior Middleweight title.
He loses a very close 15 round fight with one of the best Middleweights of all time in Marvin Hagler.
6 years later he wins the Middleweight title.
At the age of 45 he is still KOing people at Super Middleweight.
Retiring with a record of 100 wins (70 KO's).

Who can match that?

Not overrated. He was an amazing fighter.

[shortright]

for the little i have seen of duran. (just stating my opinion on what ive seen) he does look overrated and not that impressive

you must of not seen much then he is one of the best fighters to watch, most nasty on film ever

duran bucanan, dejesus 2 and 3, leanord, palimino, moore, cuevas, barklley, hector thompson, thats a very good place to start, dejejeus 3 and palimino are fights you should see at his peak, plus leanord,m where you realize he is every bit as good as leanord

[Verstyle]

Duran was 71-1-0 (55 ko) as a Lightweight.
He jumps 2 weights to face Sugar Ray Leonard at Welterweight and beats him.
3 years later he wins the Junior Middleweight title.
He loses a very close 15 round fight with one of the best Middleweights of all time in Marvin Hagler.
6 years later he wins the Middleweight title.
At the age of 45 he is still KOing people at Super Middleweight.
Retiring with a record of 100 wins (70 KO's).

Who can match that?

Not overrated. He was an amazing fighter.

i dont go by stats i go by performance

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as for leanord 2 the truth out of the horses mouth

PLAYBOY: Why was your rematch with him so easy for you? LEONARD: Well, to start with, Duran had a few years on me. He was 29, and our first fight was a very physical 15 rounds--and you just don't heal that easy unless you're young. I hit him with some severe blows to the body and I heard reports afterward that he was urinating blood, so apparently I did some damage. Once I decided I wanted a rematch, my guys thought I should fight him as soon as possible, because he might not have had a chance to heal completely. On top of that, Duran had been soaking up all the fame and glory he got for beating Sugar Ray Leonard. Everyone should party and celebrate, but there's a limit, especially if you're a fighter. After Duran defeated me, Panama held a national holiday in his honor, and Duran kept partying and got fat. All of a sudden, we were ready to fight again, and he had to jump back and try to get in shape real quick. Too late: I'd been training for a couple of months by then.