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  • BuddyChacon
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    #11
    Originally posted by ianwigley
    Folks

    Call me naive if you will, but aside from that dodgy victory over Ray Leonard, didn't Roberto Duran get his ass kicked by anyone half-decent he fought? And as a consequence, isn't he vastly overrated?

    Watched him quit on his feet against Ray Leonard again last night, nothing but a ****ing *****...

    Ian
    I suggest you watch Duran ruin the Career of Davey Moore or the boxing masterpiece he put on against Barkely. He was giving no shot in the Barkely fight and fought his ass off after Barkely had owned Hearns.

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    • Parody
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      #12
      Duran a lightweight gave Hagler a natural alltime great Middleweight his toughest fight.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ianwigley
        I've no beef whatsoever with Duran, just can't help thinking he was vastly overrated, and I can't stand people telling me he was so good.

        Same goes for Tommy Hearns, decent boxer who got tagged as soon as he scrapped someone half-decent. Glass-jawed skinny guy. If Hearns had had anything about him, he'd have finished Marvin Hagler before Marvin kicked his ass.
        marvin hagler is an all time great a HOF. hearns got beat that night it does not mean he sucks.

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        • ianwigley
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          #14
          Originally posted by buddychacon
          I suggest you watch Duran ruin the Career of Davey Moore or the boxing masterpiece he put on against Barkely. He was giving no shot in the Barkely fight and fought his ass off after Barkely had owned Hearns.
          Who the hell id Davey Moore?

          My point exactly....

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          • ianwigley
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            #15
            Originally posted by ianwigley
            Who the hell is Davey Moore?

            My point exactly....
            Moore beat an old Wilfred Benitez, by a Benitez broken ankle...Don't make Duran a worldbeater...

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            • shortright
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              #16
              actaully he tkod get you ass of boxrec, he got ****ed up in that fight, duran aint overrated, dont you find it a little supicous that the fight was so easy for leanord, but he lost the first one, duran was tricked and that fight was over b4 the bell rang

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              • ianwigley
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                #17
                Originally posted by shortright
                actaully he tkod get you ass of boxrec, he got ****ed up in that fight, duran aint overrated, dont you find it a little supicous that the fight was so easy for leanord, but he lost the first one, duran was tricked and that fight was over b4 the bell rang
                Sorry

                I got my facts wrong. Duran 8 round TKO.

                Davey Moore is hardly a name though, is he? Thus reinforcing my point. Duran fought bums, and when he fought names, he got beat.

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                • shortright
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                  #18
                  duran didnt fight bums, and you need to see him fight not focus on what he was doing past 30 most fighters dont do much past thirty with the execption of a few like hopkins, for hte second leanord fight this should put arguring to rest about what really happened in that fight

                  I don't know why people still want to say Duran in the 2nd fight was even close to what he was in the first fight. Leonard himself has said many times that he knew very early in the first round that Duran had nothing. This should really end the debate. As for Duran's training for the second fight this is straight from leonard in a 1982 playboy interview.





                  PLAYBOY: Why was your rematch with him so easy for you? LEONARD: Well, to start with, Duran had a few years on me. He was 29, and our first fight was a very physical 15 rounds--and you just don't heal that easy unless you're young. I hit him with some severe blows to the body and I heard reports afterward that he was urinating blood, so apparently I did some damage. Once I decided I wanted a rematch, my guys thought I should fight him as soon as possible, because he might not have had a chance to heal completely. On top of that, Duran had been soaking up all the fame and glory he got for beating Sugar Ray Leonard. Everyone should party and celebrate, but there's a limit, especially if you're a fighter. After Duran defeated me, Panama held a national holiday in his honor, and Duran kept partying and got fat. All of a sudden, we were ready to fight again, and he had to jump back and try to get in shape real quick. Too late: I'd been training for a couple of months by then.

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                  • wmute
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ianwigley
                    But he lost to them all, aside from Leonard first time (Which was a farce).

                    Frank Bruno fought some great boxers, didn't he? But it don't make him anything less than a glass-jawed oaf.
                    how was that a fight a farce?

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                    • ianwigley
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by wmute
                      how was that a fight a farce?
                      Because Leonard won...simple as that...

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