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  • Abe Attell
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    #41
    Nobody is born with proper technique, you learn it.

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    • Abe Attell
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      #42
      Originally posted by Smokin'
      who cares about all of those sports you did. you obviously weren't elite at ANY of them or you would actually understand this concept.
      And you play pro, and your name is?

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      • Smokin'
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        #43
        Originally posted by Abe Attell
        And you play pro, and your name is?
        I don't play pro. but I was extremely elite in my younger days (dating back a year and a half ago).

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        • El Jesus
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          #44
          Originally posted by Smokin'
          I don't play pro. but I was extremely elite in my younger days (dating back a year and a half ago).
          If you were elite as you say you were, then you would be playing pro in your respective area. Even if.lets say you suffered injury, surely you would be so elite you could come back from the advsersity of injury and be able to function pro in your area of expertise, i find this hard to understand.

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          • Smokin'
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            #45
            Originally posted by Black Jesus
            If you were elite as you say you were, then you would be playing pro in your respective area. Even if.lets say you suffered injury, surely you would be so elite you could come back from the advsersity of injury and be able to function pro in your area of expertise, i find this hard to understand.
            pro in my respective area was pretty bush league. I wanted to make it over in Europe but had neither the money nor connections....I had neither but to an extent I had connections but the money was more important.

            And my departure from the game had nothing to do with injury....it was my mental game that was shot.

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            • Smokin'
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              #46
              I could certainly **** up Ryan Babel in a 1v1 situation.

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              • El Jesus
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                #47
                Originally posted by Smokin'
                pro in my respective area was pretty bush league. I wanted to make it over in Europe but had neither the money nor connections....I had neither but to an extent I had connections but the money was more important.

                And my departure from the game had nothing to do with injury....it was my mental game that was shot.
                So then surely your elite athleticism could have been used in a different sport. So you couldnt have been as elite as you say you are just based on that story alone. Atheletes get converted to other sports all the time, and if you were that elite, your "connections" would have netted you something major. I have never known not one elite athelete in any sport i played in that didint make it in something one way or another barring their own ****** self destruction.

                So surely, the idea of you being elite means you had people clammoring from all angles to recruit you in your respective sport. In my final year of high school i got offers from 2 schools for partial scholarship to play baseball, and 1 full scholarship to the University of Texas El Paso for football as well as countless division 2 and Jr College offers for me to play. But i turned them down because i wanted to be a soldier which was my lifelong dream at the time.

                And i was good, but not elite, but surely you were so elite that such offers would have been at your doorstep in some form one way or another, since you were elite in the "extreme" way. I think full of **** in all honesty. Someone who was elite at something had something to show that they were elite, not just internet lip service.

                Elite in comparison to whaT? what do you have to show that you were elite.

                Elite means your on the level of a Mayweather/Jordan/Toney/Duran/Ruth/Aaron etc in your respective sport. which you obviously werent, since "lack of connections" or "pro in your respective sport is bush league" prevented you from doing something with your "extrmely elite" athleticism.

                Since your "young years" were a year and a half ago, sure you still should "be extremely elite" at the age your at now. Bull****.

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                • Smokin'
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Black Jesus
                  So then surely your elite athleticism could have been used in a different sport. So you couldnt have been as elite as you say you are just based on that story alone. Atheletes get converted to other sports all the time, and if you were that elite, your "connections" would have netted you something major. I have never known not one elite athelete in any sport i played in that didint make it in something one way or another barring their own ****** self destruction.

                  So surely, the idea of you being elite means you had people clammoring from all angles to recruit you in your respective sport. In my final year of high school i got offers from 2 schools for partial scholarship to play baseball, and 1 full scholarship to the University of Texas El Paso for football as well as countless division 2 and Jr College offers for me to play. But i turned them down because i wanted to be a soldier which was my lifelong dream at the time.

                  And i was good, but not elite, but surely you were so elite that such offers would have been at your doorstep in some form one way or another, since you were elite in the "extreme" way. I think full of **** in all honesty. Someone who was elite at something had something to show that they were elite, not just internet lip service.

                  Elite in comparison to whaT? what do you have to show that you were elite.

                  Elite means your on the level of a Mayweather/Jordan/Toney/Duran/Ruth/Aaron etc in your respective sport. which you obviously werent, since "lack of connections" or "pro in your respective sport is bush league" prevented you from doing something with your "extrmely elite" athleticism.

                  Since your "young years" were a year and a half ago, sure you still should "be extremely elite" at the age your at now. Bull****.
                  it's funny how you mention mayweather/toney's name with ruth and jordan. that makes me laugh.

                  but Dude, I went overseas twice, participated in the best tourneys in north america. heck, i was one of the best players in my city, province, and country which makes me elite. at least in my eyes. like i said, i was one of the top athletes in my city for years and years which is how i gained all this knowledge. i played with a player who got recruited to play for our provincial team when he was a 12 year old (the team was full of 14 year olds). He ended up getting into *******, drugs, alcohol etc. but was still one of the top players in the city because he was a natural. it didn't matter that he was a smoker and his stamina ****** because his natural skill far possessed everything else and he didn't; even need to go to practice (he didn't) to suceed.

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                  • Neckodeemus
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                    #49
                    On Toney if you watch a lot of his early fights he could throw some very fasy shots and throw quite a few of them but there was something missing in his technqiue.

                    Toney started to work with Bill Miller, who was a peer of Eddie Futch, and he immediately started to jump ahead in terms of technqiue. Miller got Tnoey throwing less punches but he got his connect rate way up. Miller came on board around the time of the Sanderline fights and you can see Toney plant his feet that bit more and hit with harder single shots.

                    I'm not jumping into the debate here but Toney was a natural athelete in his younger days, Miller brought a big, fat bag of boxing knowledge and improved Toney a lot whilst setting up his later flaws (low workrate and poor balance if he missed a shot.) Flaws Futch was perfectlyplaced to expose, as shown. Arcel did the same with Duran.

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                    • DiegoFuego
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Smokin'
                      Yeah, he never lost to Castillo and he wasn't losing on the cards agaisnt Chavez?
                      check the record *****. All I remember is your boy Hatton nearly KO'ed by Luis ****ing Collazo LOL

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