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  • Smokin'
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    #21
    What you just said I totally agree with. But, you do have to agree that Floyd sure aint no natural. There's no way he could show up to a fight out of shape, and fight the way Toney/Duran have fought. Inside, pocket tight pressure fighters.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Smokin'
      Dude, don't you understand. I'm not saying that's what Floyd does purely. I'm saying he wins because of his superior athletic ability, his skill, and his ability to outcondition his opponents. You really think Floyd would be able to move up like Toney/Duran and fight larger foes out of shape, or severely weight drained and win based purely on skill. Ummm, no, reflexes and speed is still a large part of Floyd's game (athletic ability).
      Floyd started at 130 and is now beating welterweights and moving up to a 5th division. He is beating bigger fighters already. Your entire point is that Floyd isn't that good because he can't beat guys if he's out of shape? Wow, there aren't words to describe this level of ******ity...

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      • Smokin'
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        #23
        Originally posted by SiN
        Floyd started at 130 and is now beating welterweights and moving up to a 5th division. He is beating bigger fighters already. Your entire point is that Floyd isn't that good because he can't beat guys if he's out of shape? Wow, there aren't words to describe this level of ******ity...
        I'm not saying **** about Floyd "not being good", dip****. I am saying he is winning alot of his fights based on his superior conditioning and athletic talent. FACT.

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        • El Jesus
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          #24
          Originally posted by Smokin'
          What you just said I totally agree with. But, you do have to agree that Floyd sure aint no natural. There's no way he could show up to a fight out of shape, and fight the way Toney/Duran have fought. Inside, pocket tight pressure fighters.
          He was never taught to fight that way. He grew up in the fight game, he does everything his father and uncle do but 3 times as good. If he wasnt a natural to this fight game he would have lost by now, because all of the things needed to learn about adjusting during a fight, overcoming adversity etc etc. Floyd does all of this, thats why hes undefeated and linear champ in 3 different weight classes and avoided by some fighters who i wont mention.

          If thats not natural i dont know what is.

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          • Smokin'
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            #25
            You don't understand what a natural athlete is...probably because you have never even participated in sports or were you ever good at them. A natural is a guy who can still play at the top of the game (or near it) with not much practice. You would know that alot of soccer players are like this...but then again you never played high level soccer so it doesn't mean jack.

            Anyway, FLoyd was taught by Jeff Mayweather, Roger Mayweather, and his father Floyd. Taught by 3 *almost* world-class fighters...yet he's a natural. Shut the **** up, fool.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Smokin'
              I'm not saying **** about Floyd "not being good", dip****. I am saying he is winning alot of his fights based on his superior conditioning and athletic talent. FACT.
              That's how most good athletes beat their opponents. You don't think the more talented, better conditioned athlete is going to win most of the time? Toney and Duran may be more "natural" as you put it, but I don't think being fat, lazy ****s is something to give them credit for. Toney certainly could have gone down as an all-time great if he would have taken his training and conditioning seriously...

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              • Abe Attell
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                #27
                Originally posted by Smokin'
                I'm not saying **** about Floyd "not being good", dip****. I am saying he is winning alot of his fights based on his superior conditioning and athletic talent. FACT.
                I know what you are trying to say, but I think Black Jesus is saying that if Floyd wasn't "naturally" talented, he wouldn't be on top.

                Many can learn boxing, know boxing, but they can't get to the elite level.

                Floyd's "athletic" ability is born, and trained.

                Your point, I think, is that Floyd can't fight if he stopped going to the gym, drank ***** juice all day, etc. but, Duran and Toney could.

                Am I close or right?

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                  #28
                  I don't think you ****s understand....partly because Mayweather is polluting your brain.

                  Duran started from 135 and fought to 168. He was 5'6'' and a ****ing inside, pressure fighter who was a MASTER boxer. HE was NOTORIOUS for showing up for fights out of shape, severely weight drained, or all of the above. He survived literally because of his natural talent. It didn't matter if he showed up in shape or not, he had the experience and savvy to always put in a good account for himself. Toney too, but to a much smaller scale.

                  Floyd is the opposite....

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Smokin'
                    You don't understand what a natural athlete is...probably because you have never even participated in sports or were you ever good at them. A natural is a guy who can still play at the top of the game (or near it) with not much practice. You would know that alot of soccer players are like this...but then again you never played high level soccer so it doesn't mean jack.

                    Anyway, FLoyd was taught by Jeff Mayweather, Roger Mayweather, and his father Floyd. Taught by 3 *almost* world-class fighters...yet he's a natural. Shut the **** up, fool.
                    Actually, a natural is someone who picks something up with very little training...

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                    • Abe Attell
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SiN
                      Actually, a natural is someone who picks something up with very little training...
                      Babe Ruth

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