Floyd's PPV Numbers Vs Pac-EM?

[flipbjefrox]

I recently pointed that out in another thread and got flamed.

It's funny people hate Floyd so much that they just take on the biggest double-standards I have ever seen. I like to call it the "Mayweather Double-Standard"

Whatever applies to Floyd, apparently doesn't apply to anyone else. And what doesn't apply to Floyd, applies to everyone else. It's a viscious circle.

"ROFL Floyd only sold 325k buys in his latest PPV fighting a complete nobody... he's not a REAL STAR"

"WOW PAC AND EM STAR POWER COMBINED DID 350k buys!! They are the true stars of boxing!"

probably cuz people didnt get their money's worth in the floyd ppv. pac ppv is well worth it so its not a disgrace to the paying public. floyd's ppv are boring so it gives a bad indicator on the sports of boxing especially to the casual fans.

[Guest]

When you claim to be the greatest boxer ever.. greater than ALI Robinson and so forth.. and then you only sell 350k PPVs .. people are going to laugh.. If he is so GREAT then shouldn't he be selling 1000000 PPVs ..?? And this is why people laugh at FLOYD... another reason they laugh is to simply piss his legion of blinded nuthugger fan boys off..

When did greatness become a popularity contest? So because DLH does 1 million buys against Mayorga, he should be P4P number 1 today?

[Guest]

His pay-per-views did not make as much money. He gets paid more than Pac vs. Morales combined and his fights did not sell more than any of the Pac-Morales trilogy fights. The early numbers for the Trilogy is 350K, with the end probably being around 375-380, which is HIGHER than two of Floyd's PPVs.

Mayweather-Gatti did 340K buys. Baldomir did less, Judah did 350K, the highest of the three and will be no higher than Pacquiao-Morales 3 (remember Mayweather's high purse).

http://boxing.about.com/b/a/182216.htm

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee041606.htm

He is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the sport and there were hundreds of empty seats for his fights with Baldomir and Judah.

Morales-Pacquiao = sellout in all three fights.

So if Floyd got paid nothing to fight Baldomir and the PPV made an additional $8 million because of that, then you would consider Floyd a true star? That logic is ridiculous. Fact is, it comes down to buys and seats sold. Mayweather did pretty good considering the opponent. I would love to see Morales or PacMan do those kind of numbers with someone like Humberto Soto...

[flipbjefrox]

So if Floyd got paid nothing to fight Baldomir and the PPV made an additional $8 million because of that, then you would consider Floyd a true star? That logic is ridiculous. Fact is, it comes down to buys and seats sold. Mayweather did pretty good considering the opponent. I would love to see Morales or PacMan do those kind of numbers with someone like Humberto Soto...

baldomir is still a nobody after he beat judah and gatti..

let soto beat two stars like barrera and valero.

[Guest]

baldomir is still a nobody after he beat judah and gatti..

let soto beat two stars like barrera and valero.

Ummm... That's my point! Baldomir was a nobody and Floyd did 325k buys. Let Pac or Morales fight an unknown (I used Soto as an example) and let's see what kind of numbers they draw. If Mayweather was fighting another true superstar like Hatton, that would do 500k buys minimum and the DLH fight is expected to do better than DLH-Trinidad...

[Welter_Skelter]

When did greatness become a popularity contest? So because DLH does 1 million buys against Mayorga, he should be P4P number 1 today?

NO I didn't say that.. BUT its true .. popularity has everything to do with it.. The question is not if Floyd is great.. but that why do people say PAC EM s figures are good at 400k buys.. But laugh when Floyd gets just slightly less.. and I answered .. people laugh because FLOYD thinks he is the greatest ever and people enjoy watching him fail any way they can.. if not in the ring.. then in his celeberty life instead.. they hate him and want to laugh... I said nothing critical.. so you really ough to not get your panties all bunched up over it...

[kg21mvp]

yeah floyd sells PPV's but at the end of the fight people regret of buying that PPV coz its boring as hell

[Guest]

NO I didn't say that.. BUT its true .. popularity has everything to do with it.. The question is not if Floyd is great.. but that why do people say PAC EM s figures are good at 400k buys.. But laugh when Floyd gets just slightly less.. and I answered .. people laugh because FLOYD thinks he is the greatest ever and people enjoy watching him fail any way they can.. if not in the ring.. then in his celeberty life instead.. they hate him and want to laugh... I said nothing critical.. so you really ough to not get your panties all bunched up over it...

Yeah, I know haters enjoy bashing Floyd at every opportunity. I'm just saying because a fighter is hated doesn't mean he isn't a great fighter. How many PPV buys he does should have no bearing on his greatness. Throw all this PPV business aside, very few people would bet their own money against Floyd Mayweather versus any fighter from 140-154. That's a fact and that's how you know he's great...

[neils7147933]

Floyd is just like Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins. He can't sell jack **** on ppv.

The only time Jones was able to sell was when he was in with fighters where people thought he was going to get killed, late in his career, like Ruiz and Tarver. Other than those PPVs he never sold much.

Hopkins was never even able to step foot on PPV until he went up against De La Hoya. Without Oscar, I doubt the two Taylor fights would have made it there.

The only way Mayweather will sell is if he has another bonafide superstar on the other end. Someone like a De La Hoya, Mosley, or Wright.

At the end of the day, Mayweather will never have the star power of a De La Hoya, Tyson or Holyfield. There were selling against nobodies when they were Floyd's age, grabbing numbers that were at least 500+ per ppv.

Sugar Ray Leonard that Floyd likes to take shots at all the time, received more money in some of his early fights, like against Hearns and Duran, than Mayweather makes today. We are talking about well over 25-years ago, 10 million a fight back then was like De La Hoya money now. He got 11 mill to face Hagler in 1987!!! That's 20 years ago.

May 5 will be his test. Even if he wins, and is not impressive in winning, as in running circles around De La Hoya and boxing his way to a decision like he did against Baldomir, people will never buy another Mayweather card again. Can you imagine people starting to boo a De La Hoya fight, against a major opponent? That PPV is going to be 55 bucks a pop at least, that is my biggest fear, that the fight resembles Mayweather-Baldomir.

It really doesnt matter because he plans to retire after May 5, or so he says. If he loses, I think he will and if he wins, maybe he will for a year and returns for Mosley. The fight is his audition to what is going to be a record boxing audience, he has to sell big like Hopkins in order to have a future in ppv.

I bought Hopkins-Joppy on PPV, though it was sold as more of a card than a Hopkins showcase. Zab Judah-Jaime Rangel, Cory Spinks-Ricardo Mayorga and John Ruiz-Hasim Rahman were on that show as well.

Hopkins-Allen III was on PPV too along with JL Castillo-Lazcano, but DLH-Sturm co - main evented.

[Chups]

Ummm... That's my point! Baldomir was a nobody and Floyd did 325k buys. Let Pac or Morales fight an unknown (I used Soto as an example) and let's see what kind of numbers they draw. If Mayweather was fighting another true superstar like Hatton, that would do 500k buys minimum and the DLH fight is expected to do better than DLH-Trinidad...

Wrong! That's why I posted and ask what the numbers was for Floyd and Judah and the answer is that it also made 350K buys. Floyd and Judah are both superstars like Pac and Morales. They are comparable....Judah coming off a loss fight to Baldomir and Morales lost 3 fights before the grand finale.
Hatton-Floyd would be comparable to Pac-MAB. The point here is though welterweights are suppose to be more popular than super featherweights it's not the case here coz they are about equal which makes it astonishing.