GOD DAMN RUSSIANS!!!! lol

[Abe Attell]

What about Shawn Hawks? That is the purest americans you you could get?

Freddi roach is training him he is native americain

Never heard of Shawn Hawks, have to look into him.

"Native American", they still exist???


I read a paper back in high-school actually that this kid brought in from some magazine that said one of the reason the "White Man" killed the Natives was because they were amazed at their incredible athletic talent...they were super fast and agile...learned how to shoot a gun fast, learn other things fast, etc. They were a threat, so they were killed.

It could of had some truth, some bull****, don't know...I always think of
Jim Thorpe though

[El Jesus]

Sure, so why not use your best players?


Its like Real Madrid. All-star roster but yet they do not DOMINATE as one would expect a team with every player having a star next to his name...or a lot of them.

because most of them have already won, several times over, who won in 92/96/00 when we FINALLY started playing our pro players? Even in 03 we placed 3rd with easily one of the worst fits for a team.

Real Madrid isnt like america because thats league play, this is international play, the concept is different for alot of american players who simply dont care enough to play. but things have changed,

in the world basketball championships we sent a young team out there whos average age was 23 and placed 3rd against 10/15 year pros out there, it was a TEAM in a sense that this new team USA will be together for the next 4 years. While its not our best players all around, its a good team that will grow together. Still, when we were sending our best, we kickin the **** out of everybody, period.

[El Jesus]

That's the key...I was watching a short documentary on ESPN about the Euros and they said they spend hourse watching basketball games, but guess what, they are all games from the 80's-early 90's. Why not of games now, BEACAUSE THEY ARE ****.

This is why a great coach like Larry Brown was Fired from the ****** hood rat NY KNICKS.

God Forbid you should listen to a coach that actually knows BASEKETBALL.

the problem is that Thomas as GM setup Brown with a bunch of players who are natural ball hogs in the backcourt. You usually only need about 1 ballhog to takeover a game, the knicks gave themselves about 3 (jalen rose, steve francis, marbury).

It ruins the chemistry of an entire team, which thomas did, thus hurting brown and his style of limiting shots and focusing on defense. which doesnt work for every team.

[Abe Attell]

but I still think it is wrong that Ron Artest wasn't considered, even though he wanted to play.

[Abe Attell]

the problem is that Thomas as GM setup Brown with a bunch of players who are natural ball hogs in the backcourt. You usually only need about 1 ballhog to takeover a game, the knicks gave themselves about 3 (jalen rose, steve francis, marbury).

It ruins the chemistry of an entire team, which thomas did, thus hurting brown and his style of limiting shots and focusing on defense. which doesnt work for every team.

It's still a different generation...a generation of "ME, ME, Me"

[El Jesus]

but I still think it is wrong that Ron Artest wasn't considered, even though he wanted to play.

because what if..in a flash, he doesnt something ****** embarassing the country and the sport.

[El Jesus]

It's still a different generation...a generation of "ME, ME, Me"

there were those kinds of players back then also, guys who could hog the ball and take over a game, but you didint see 3 or 5 of them on the same team. You hear about alot of that **** now more often because theres espn, the internet, interviews etc etc. Its been like this for ages, i garuntee you if you put DR J or Oscar Robertson in larry browns system, its a problem, those guys are not limited scorers, neither was moses malone or walt frazier.

Its the buildup of the team, You have to have the right players, You think steve nash, one of the best pure PG's in the game would flourish in browns system? Absolutely ****in not. no more running, all half court, DEFENSE, nash cant defend worth a ****, but thats not his game. You see what im saying?

[Abe Attell]

Yes, I see what you are saying.

[El Jesus]

Yes, I see what you are saying.

alot of these people posting are going off of alot of stereotypes about the NBA, for every atheletic freak, there is some 19 year old 7'1 european riding the bench because hes got little to no post movement and cant handle the ball properly.

Sure there are a ton of selfish atheletic freaks in the NBA, but there are a ton of european players drafted purely on "potential" it goes both ways. Fact is, the NBA is the most elite and obviously in my opinion, the best league in the world, if it wasnt, everyone wouldnt be ready to kill their mama to get in.

The NCAA sucks compared to european leagues because euro leagues are pro, Andris Beidrens of the warriors has been a pro player since he was 14, that means at 14, he was playing against NBA rejects out in europe. How can you compare that to playing college kids out of high school in the NCAA? There are certain advantages you can get in europe, you can go pro QUICKLY.

I think europeans are good players, but too many of them cant adjust to our game, and its not because its the "american style of playing" its because its the ****in best league in the world, and you cant rely on just passing and shooting, you have to create for your team as well as pass, as well as shoot as well as rebound etc.

[adamk1304]

My point was: Euros are dominating more now because Americans aren't in the sport...

That is complete and utter rubbish. You really think American youngters are the only ones going into other sports?? football (or soccer) is huge in eastern europe now and there are just as many athletes from soviet republics going into it as there are american's into the nfl or nba.