Is George Foreman the biggest puncher in heavyweight all-time?

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  • Southpaw Stinger
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    #31
    Originally posted by catskills23
    this is a very hard question to answer . The only way you could know who was the hardest puncher in heavyweight history is to test all the big punchers such as tyson,shavers,foreman,liston,lewis etc on a machine . I heard that foreman and shavers scored 1600 psi on a machine and tyson scored 1750 psi on the machine . This tells me that despite popular belief tyson punched harder than shavers and foreman.
    you make up different psi figures everytime. you come out with more **** than a fertiliser tractor.

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    • hemichromis
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      #32
      Originally posted by Yogi
      And yet, I bet you'll have trouble in coming up with even one example of Foreman scoring a one-punch knockout in the 70's (the Moorer fight is the only one I can think of from the 90's even), or really even an example of Foreman's one-punch power that didn't score him a knockout...

      He be a clubbin', and that's what Foreman did...He clubbed his opponents down with a series of hard & heavy shots.

      Shavers was constantly showing off true one-punch power throughout the 70's (e.g. Ellis, Williams, Holmes, Norton, Lyle, etc., etc.), whether he ended up winning the fight or not.

      And Stinger, please don't make it sound like Foreman scored an extraordinary number of knockouts against top fighters (champions or contenders), because numerically wise, we both can (or should) think of MANY heavyweights who have more quality knockouts of top heavyweights than does Big George...In fact, I don't think the number would be all that much different than what Shavers' is, although Foreman does have Frazier on his ledger.
      foreman did not score many one punch knockouts he also rarely hit the chin! do you think they are related

      frasier and norton were the champ and number 1 contenders respectivly defeating them in 2 rounds a peice is very impressive

      and would you please give examples of heavyweights whop scored more 'knockouts of top heavyweights' i can think of few. ali is actually the only one who comes to mind!

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        #33
        Originally posted by ReppinDubK
        Like was said Shavers actually put his body weight behind it and Foreman just threw arm punches and their power is comparable, so if Foreman put his body into it i'm sure he could punch harder than Shavers. So Shavers punched harder but I believe Foreman could have punched harder if he chose to.
        yeah, I wrote something like this before...Foreman had poor technique in throwing his punches...he tended to have stiff arms when he threw a punch, he really needed to add some snap...if you look at someone like Joe Louis or a Tyson, you can see proper technique for punching with power.

        Somebody should of taught him to use his whole body.

        Foreman didn't have a trainer that could really work with him...yes, he had big name guys that were former fighters, but if that was the end product, that's a shame, what a waste.

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        • BrooklynBomber
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          #34
          Many consider Clark to be the hardest puncher, due to his high ko numbers and most of his kos were actual kos not tkos. He ogt ko'd by Ali btw, so dont make any ideas about him.

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            #35
            Also big power does not always equal one punch ko artist.
            I would say Foreman definately had more power than Tyson but Tyson was a better ko artist

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            • The Surgeon
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              #36
              Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
              Also big power does not always equal one punch ko artist.
              I would say Foreman definately had more power than Tyson but Tyson was a better ko artist
              Very true. Mike had timing and accuracy on top of the power to score the spectacular KOs, Foreman Clubbed wildly but oh so hard!

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              • TheEvilSaint
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                #37
                biggest puncher? i dont think so, i say earnie shavers.
                but i do think foreman is the strongest boxer in history.

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                  #38
                  Hardest Heavyweight Puncher Ever? Earnie Shavers

                  Hardest Punching Heavyweight Champion? Either Foreman or Baer IMHO.

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                  • Yogi
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by hemichromis
                    and would you please give examples of heavyweights whop scored more 'knockouts of top heavyweights' i can think of few. ali is actually the only one who comes to mind!
                    Let's see here, Foreman knocked out/stopped the following heavyweights who were ranked; Chuvalo, Frazier x2, Norton, Lyle, Roman, and Moorer.

                    That's only seven for Foreman by my count.

                    Ali would certainly be one of them, as would Joe Louis. Larry Holmes would have more. Ditto for Jack Dempsey & Marciano. Sonny Liston, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lews all have more. Sam Langford & Harry Wills. Ezzard Charles too...

                    And that's just a few of the obvious one from off the top of my head, my friend, with some quick cross references with The Ring's annual rankings if unsure, as well as some of the monthly rankings that I have.

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                    • hemichromis
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Yogi
                      Let's see here, Foreman knocked out/stopped the following heavyweights who were ranked; Chuvalo, Frazier x2, Norton, Lyle, Roman, and Moorer.

                      That's only seven for Foreman by my count.

                      Ali would certainly be one of them, as would Joe Louis. Larry Holmes would have more. Ditto for Jack Dempsey & Marciano. Sonny Liston, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lews all have more. Sam Langford & Harry Wills. Ezzard Charles too...

                      And that's just a few of the obvious one from off the top of my head, my friend, with some quick cross references with The Ring's annual rankings if unsure, as well as some of the monthly rankings that I have.
                      i suppose you may be right i just have trouble thinking of boxers who took down champions and number 1 contenders as devastatingly as foreman

                      sorry if i was rude before BTW

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