Calzaghe aims at Hopkins' record!

[Jcsuper]

That's sad...

Bozo was right with everything he said.

It really seems like truth hurts, cause all Joe fans threw insults at him but didn't say anything related with what he said.

[SHB]

That's sad...

Bozo was right with everything he said.

It really seems like truth hurts, cause all Joe fans threw insults at him but didn't say anything related with what he said.

People throw insults at him because he was throwing insults.

Still you're right in that he can make some good points sometimes. Something our resident scandinavians have singularly failed to do ever.

[Hydro]

I can quite understand Hopkins being more interested in fighting for the HW title. Imagine in 40 years time when he's a scrawny old little man and he can tell the grandkids how he won a heavyweight title. Being beaten from pillar to posty by some valley type doesn't quite have the same ring.

hopkins can tell his grandkids about all the other things he did.

"you see, bernard hopkins never picked up the soap in the shower. bernard hopkins never washed the draws in prison. bernard hopkins didn't let no one tell bernard hopkins what to do. bernard hopkins have mastered many style of boxing and felix trinidad and oscar de la hoya hadn't nothing to do to faze bernard hopkins. you see, there was a guy from wales who didn't want no piece of bernard hopkins, so bernard hopkins hadn't no reason to fight him. bernard hopkins decided that bernard hopkins would beat oleg maskaev, who was too slow for bernard hopkins'

[Shanus]

I can quite understand Hopkins being more interested in fighting for the HW title. Imagine in 40 years time when he's a scrawny old little man and he can tell the grandkids how he won a heavyweight title. Being beaten from pillar to posty by some valley type doesn't quite have the same ring.

I know, but I didn't understand his aim at beating Tarver either.

He said he wanted to do something that Sugar Ray Robinson couldn't, which was capture the LHW title, which he didn't even do because there was not a major title on the line, and SRR was a natural welterweight.. I couldn't get my head around that one.

My point is, he's picked the weakest and smallest of all the heavyweights, he'd go into the fight as a favourite anyhow.. I just don't see him getting much recognition for it.

[Jcsuper]

I know, you would never give Hopkins any credit anyway.

But if Joe C was going at heavyweight and beat a champ, you would be on your knees claiming that he's a god.

You said : I just don't see him getting much recognition for it.

Did you ever fought ? Do you know how boxing is hard, and how it's hard to pass from a middleweight to heavyweight ?

You will not give any credit to a guy who passed from middleweight to light heavyweight to heavyweight and win a fight at 42 years old ?

Are you crazy or what.

[SHB]

I know, but I didn't understand his aim at beating Tarver either.

He said he wanted to do something that Sugar Ray Robinson couldn't, which was capture the LHW title, which he didn't even do because there was not a major title on the line, and SRR was a natural welterweight.. I couldn't get my head around that one.

My point is, he's picked the weakest and smallest of all the heavyweights, he'd go into the fight as a favourite anyhow.. I just don't see him getting much recognition for it.

In history he will. I have no doubt about that. And Tarver was most definitely the man at LHW so I have no qualms in calling Hopkins the new king - belts are largely irrelevant these days.

Of course the tougher fight is Calzaghe but I can quite understand Hopkins' mindset on this.

[SHB]

hopkins can tell his grandkids about all the other things he did.

"you see, bernard hopkins never picked up the soap in the shower. bernard hopkins never washed the draws in prison. bernard hopkins didn't let no one tell bernard hopkins what to do. bernard hopkins have mastered many style of boxing and felix trinidad and oscar de la hoya hadn't nothing to do to faze bernard hopkins. you see, there was a guy from wales who didn't want no piece of bernard hopkins, so bernard hopkins hadn't no reason to fight him. bernard hopkins decided that bernard hopkins would beat oleg maskaev, who was too slow for bernard hopkins'

That'd be the same Hopkins who agreed to fight Calzaghe a few years ago only to back out then?

[Abe Attell]

So is Joe going to finally fight Roy Jones Jr.?

You know I was watching Roy's last fight the other night and boy, his legs are shot...I mean, I knew they were shot when he came back down to 175, but damn, it seems at least his upper-body is somewhat back to normal, at least for a 37 year old, but his legs look like they have been dipped in weight cement...kind of reminds me of Michael Jordan when he played on the Wizards.

[K-DOGG]

WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe says he plans to surpass former middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins' record of twenty successful title defenses. Calzaghe will equal 'The Executioner's' mark if he defeats Peter Manfredo on March 3, a feat Hopkins has indicated an interest in trying to prevent. "If Bernard Hopkins doesn't want me to break his title defense record, then he should have fought me when he had the chance years ago. Breaking his record? When it comes to fighting me, Bernard Hopkins, like Roy Jones, is a BROKEN record. Just talk, talk, talk. There are a lot of great and exciting fights out there for me, but the only one that means anything to me right now is Peter Manfredo, Jr., because there are no other fights without beating him. But I will say this, I intend to break Bernard's record, with or without him."

Okay, maybe I'm being a dumbass here...and if so, that's fine; but Calzaghe fights at 168, which is NOT Middleweight, where Hopkins made his 20 successful defenses. In fact, the Super-Middleweight division is only like 20 years old and it's participants would have been considered smallish Light-Heavyweights prior to 1987 (I believe). So, what's the big deal, here?

Calzaghe may set or already has set (don't know for sure since I'm not steeped in Super-Middlweight Lore) the current title-defense record at 168; but that has about as much to do with Hopkins' record as the price of tea in China.

[Shanus]

I know, you would never give Hopkins any credit anyway.

But if Joe C was going at heavyweight and beat a champ, you would be on your knees claiming that he's a god.

You said : I just don't see him getting much recognition for it.

Did you ever fought ? Do you know how boxing is hard, and how it's hard to pass from a middleweight to heavyweight ?

You will not give any credit to a guy who passed from middleweight to light heavyweight to heavyweight and win a fight at 42 years old ?

Are you crazy or what.

You think me being a Joe C fan makes me want to discredit Hopkins in anyway?

Get off your ****ing high horse, I wouldn't give Calzaghe credit if he put a beating on Maskaev either, which he probably would, so would Hopkins.