Does Sam Peter need to be 257?

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  • GunStar
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    #11
    Sam is a big guys, he was like 225 at 20, he's getting older and is geeting a little heavier. The best Sam can do now is to be at 240, but he will probably not have a good stamina at 240.

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    • hollister
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      #12
      I think if Sam could show up to fight at 235 then that could be a tremendous help to him. I think a big part of his problem is his reluctance to reduce his intake, as is most likely the case with Toney, so I really don't see him trimming down significantly any time soon. That being said, he'll most likely always be fun to watch.

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      • -Antonio-
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        #13
        I know there has been a thread over this before, but Peter looked like he had a lot more stamina in the Toney fight eventhough he was heavier.

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        • Leo Pradun
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          #14
          Originally posted by boxingguy1226
          I know there has been a thread over this before, but Peter looked like he had a lot more stamina in the Toney fight eventhough he was heavier.
          I agree with you, when he fought Klitschko he weighed in at 243 and he was out of gas, for the Toney fight it seemed liked he had a lot more stamina eventought he was 257...

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          • LondonRingRules
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            #15
            Originally posted by restless_438
            Sam Peter needs alot more than "weight-management" to honestly defeat James... (at least from a technical standpoint)
            ** By Nigerian standards, Peter is quite successful. He's also well educated and intelligent. Traditionally, big men with his body type and the culture he comes from think they are strongest with weight. He's his own man and is not likely to work with your average trainer.

            He should try to hold his weight at 250 all year round. He's probably over 300 between fights. Mainly he needs to work on conditioning and strategy. He doesn't fight smart and slows down in fights with rounds.

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            • Kid Achilles
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              #16
              Peter thinks he is better with the weight but I also wonder about his diet. I wish someone could convince him he needs to work on shedding the extra flab. Even to go back down to 240 would do wonders for him, not just for stamina but for speed. It's clear from watching the films that he is slower at 257. All of that fat clinging to his body works against the acceleration of his punches.

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              • potatoes
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                #17
                Originally posted by Leo Pradun
                I agree with you, when he fought Klitschko he weighed in at 243 and he was out of gas, for the Toney fight it seemed liked he had a lot more stamina eventought he was 257...


                A man runs out of gas faster if his opponent is beating the crap out of him. Wladimir Klitschko has a lot more firepower than James Toney.

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                • Abe Attell
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                  #18
                  Sam should be 230, no more.

                  Does your body mature as you get older, of course, but 230 is resonable.

                  It is Psychological with a lot of athletes: they think "Bigger is Better"


                  He should really take a full year of trimming down the weight...he shouldn't take on any top 5 guys for another year...we saw what happened to Tua when he lost a lot of weight for Byrd, it was to fast and it worked against him....fighters need to stay in shape year round, and stop stuffing their faces with everything they see...what ever happened to "Self-Control" ?


                  the majority of Heavyweights today are disgusting

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                  • Kid Achilles
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                    If he just works on losing a good 4-5 lbs per fight he will be good. The problem is, as it's been mentioned, is he must really balloon up in weight between fights. If he can prevent that, he could easily get down to 230-240. I'm not convinced he's entirely doing it on purpose either. I think his discipline leaves something to be desired.

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                    • Castillofan
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                      #20
                      Peter definitely needs to be weighing in beneath 240.

                      Of greater importance though is his attention to skill. He cannot hope to win fights on the basis of power alone if he is to be the best heavyweight in the world. He should have been able to put Wladimir Klitschko away but couldn't find the way to do it.

                      It is unlikey that this is going to happen, as Peter seems very happy with the way things are going for him.

                      Sooner rather than later, though, that weight is going to be a burden much more than it is an asset.

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