Can Guzman Beat Pac?

[Shanus]

Bwahahahah! Barrios was drained on that fight.

Just like Morales was in the 2nd and 3rd fights, right?

[Undefeated]

Anyone that can punch has a chance. But the was i've seen Pacman fight in his last 4 fights.. He looks good. I would go with Pacman by UD with some KD in the fight.

[Filigrenasia]

Joan "the letter sender" Guzman is sooooooo overrated!

Manny by KO within 2!!!

[Shanus]

Joan "the letter sender" Guzman is sooooooo overrated!

Manny by KO within 2!!!

Guzman is too strong in the early rounds to be KO'd that early.

And how is Guzman overrated? He's MUCH more talented than Pacman.

[burglar]

I dont care how you scored it.Anyone can say they scored it 120-108 for all I care but the bottomline is it was a Split in the judges' eyes.The official scores made it an unconvincing victory.

Guzman opened with guns blazing in the 1st.But slowly, Barrios got his rhythm back and got back into the match.It was still a toss-up till the final bell...You're right, alot of credit was given to Barrios for coming forward.And why is that?Thats because Joans punches doesnt have enough pop to discourage Barrios from coming.Like what I mentioned, his last KO was way back and that was 2 divisions ago...Goodness, do you think Pac will come forward at the slow pace Barrios did?If he got tagged several times by Barrios, how much do you think will he get hit by Pac who is waaaay faster??

Out of all the opinions in this thread..I would have to agree on this one...
Well as a Boxing fan first, it would seem that a fight with Guzman will be a terrrible match-up, stylewise, for PAC. CHECK out the stats;

SPEED-equal AGRESSION- PAC (wont be discouraged by slaps)
DEFENSE-GUZMAN EXPERIENCE- PAC
TECHNIQUE- GUZMAN,
AGE- probably a little bit in favor of PAC,
POWER-definitely PAC

Now the question here is whether Pac will be able to tag GUZMAN with his power shots...Cause there is 90% chance that GUZMAN won't hurt PAC.
If PAc will be able to land his signatures shots. KO win for him. IF not, it will be a close fight.As a PAC fan- of course PAC by TKO in the 8th round.

[Shanus]

Out of all the opinions in this thread..I would have to agree on this one...
Well as a Boxing fan first, it would seem that a fight with Guzman will be a terrrible match-up, stylewise, for PAC. CHECK out the stats;

SPEED-equal AGRESSION- PAC (wont be discouraged by slaps)
DEFENSE-GUZMAN EXPERIENCE- PAC
TECHNIQUE- GUZMAN,
AGE- probably a little bit in favor of PAC,
POWER-definitely PAC

Now the question here is whether Pac will be able to tag GUZMAN with his power shots...Cause there is 90% chance that GUZMAN won't hurt PAC.
If PAc will be able to land his signatures shots. KO win for him. IF not, it will be a close fight.As a PAC fan- of course PAC by TKO in the 8th round.

Guzman had over 300 amateur fights, I wouldn't give Pac the edge in experience unless I knew how Guzman fought in the amateurs, which I don't.

[burglar]

Guzman had over 300 amateur fights, I wouldn't give Pac the edge in experience unless I knew how Guzman fought in the amateurs, which I don't.

Im referrin to the quality of opposition.....BARRERA,JMM, MORALES,LARIOS,LEDWHABA, etc. One could have a thousand fights under his belt, but its the quality of the opposition fought and won that makes a BOXER a truly "EXPERIENCED AND SEASONED FIGHTER".

[AIR_KENG]

Have they? Manny hasn't faced and equally fast guy, or young and hungry in awhile. You can't hide that part because it's laid out in your face. Morales/Barrera are both slow and past their primes. Nor do they got the hunger as they did when they were, let's say Manny's age or younger. Joan is hungry for attention. He's faster than Manny punch for punch. Manny is fast once he charges up his shots or leaps with them. Though standing still and throwing normal punches, Guzman is easily the faster man. He also has superior defense, somewhat akin to Floyds'. I'm not sure how much damage will be put on each other by the end of the fight, though I could see Guzman pulling out a UD from doing hit and run tactics. Maybe try to make Manny look bad and smile, and dance abit. The way he fought Barrios was scary. He was possessed!

complete turn around... hehe... but then guzman hasn't fought someone like pac either so its a toss up... pac beats the odds everytime and will most likely fight guzman anytime soon...

[AIR_KENG]

Im referrin to the quality of opposition.....BARRERA,JMM, MORALES,LARIOS,LEDWHABA, etc. One could have a thousand fights under his belt, but its the quality of the opposition fought and won that makes a BOXER a truly "EXPERIENCED AND SEASONED FIGHTER".

also see: ERIK MORALES

[moy22487]

yea, Morales is better, has better chin and more proven.

Morales was better had better chin. But that morales died 12 round of the first pac fight.
Guzman is no morales he will box and not get brave and try to go shot for shot, he will use his head and box untill pac gets warn out. I'm not saying he will win. But I give him the best chance out of anybody in 130.