Can Guzman Beat Pac?

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  • PrtyBoyDlicious
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    #31
    Originally posted by _Benjamin$_
    yea. Guzman is not there yet. He should fight Marquez instead. Pacquiao is on a whole new level. Guzman aint even on the P4P list.
    Is he on top 15?

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    • Manny_P
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      #32
      Originally posted by Boy_Malunggay
      Once Guzman tasted PAC's power its gonna be NO MAS! NO MAS! NO MAS!
      exactly. If he tries to be ****y with Pac, he's in trouble. We will definitely see "funniest knockout of the year" if Guzman does that thing he usually does to show off and gets clocked by Pac's vicious left hand.

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      • lesterprettyboy
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        #33
        If ever, Guzmans only chance is to box and coast to a victory.Ride bicycle all bout along, aka "Zahir Raheen" mode.This guy last had a KO win in 2004, thats 2 years ago people.His speed and defense is above average but his power is laughable.He couldnt hurt PAC enough to discourage Manny from swarming and attacking him non-stop,

        People here often point to his win over Barrios.But take note it was a spilt-decision victory.Considering Barrios wasnt a fast fighter and Joans huge advantage in speed and boxing skills, it should have been a more convincing UD.

        He will probably try to engage in the early rounds to show people he is not intimidated but once he gets tagged with Pacs power shots, he will began to backpedal.And Pacs all out aggression will eventually get him and no amount of defensive skill will save him from suffering a late KO! ;p

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        • Shanus
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          #34
          Originally posted by lesterprettyboy
          If ever, Guzmans only chance is to box and coast to a victory.Ride bicycle all bout along, aka "Zahir Raheen" mode.This guy last had a KO win in 2004, thats 2 years ago people.His speed and defense is above average but his power is laughable.He couldnt hurt PAC enough to discourage Manny from swarming and attacking him non-stop,

          People here often point to his win over Barrios.But take note it was a spilt-decision victory.Considering Barrios wasnt a fast fighter and Joans huge advantage in speed and boxing skills, it should have been a more convincing UD.

          He will probably try to engage in the early rounds to show people he is not intimidated but once he gets tagged with Pacs power shots, he will began to backpedal.And Pacs all out aggression will eventually get him and no amount of defensive skill will save him from suffering a late KO! ;p

          You must be blind if you don't think that win was convincing.

          I scored it 118-110, Barrios was just getting credit for coming forward, he wasn't landing **** all.

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          • deuce_drop
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            #35
            i think he can beat Pac, if he gets on his bike and fights backwards all night like he did against barrios.

            but i think Manny can and will beat him, it would be an interesting fight because of their styles. it goes one of two ways, exciting or a chase'm down kind of fight. i'm pulling for exciting.

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            • diavoli
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              #36
              I just don't like the way he throws punches.. I don't really think that he would be able to hurt anyone at 130 with those.

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              • Shanus
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                #37
                Originally posted by diavoli
                I just don't like the way he throws punches.. I don't really think that he would be able to hurt anyone at 130 with those.
                He rocked Barrios, but some of them are slaps too.

                Why am I a fan of boxers who slap? **** knows.

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                • lesterprettyboy
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Shanus
                  You must be blind if you don't think that win was convincing.

                  I scored it 118-110, Barrios was just getting credit for coming forward, he wasn't landing **** all.
                  I dont care how you scored it.Anyone can say they scored it 120-108 for all I care but the bottomline is it was a Split in the judges' eyes.The official scores made it an unconvincing victory.

                  Guzman opened with guns blazing in the 1st.But slowly, Barrios got his rhythm back and got back into the match.It was still a toss-up till the final bell...You're right, alot of credit was given to Barrios for coming forward.And why is that?Thats because Joans punches doesnt have enough pop to discourage Barrios from coming.Like what I mentioned, his last KO was way back and that was 2 divisions ago...Goodness, do you think Pac will come forward at the slow pace Barrios did?If he got tagged several times by Barrios, how much do you think will he get hit by Pac who is waaaay faster??

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                  • Shanus
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by lesterprettyboy
                    I dont care how you scored it.Anyone can say they scored it 120-108 for all I care but the bottomline is it was a Split in the judges' eyes.The official scores made it an unconvincing victory.

                    Guzman opened with guns blazing in the 1st.But slowly, Barrios got his rhythm back and got back into the match.It was still a toss-up till the final bell...You're right, alot of credit was given to Barrios for coming forward.And why is that?Thats because Joans punches doesnt have enough pop to discourage Barrios from coming.Like what I mentioned, his last KO was way back and that was 2 divisions ago...Goodness, do you think Pac will come forward at the slow pace Barrios did?If he got tagged several times by Barrios, how much do you think will he get hit by Pac who is waaaay faster??
                    Underestimating Guzmans power will be the worst thing Pacman can do, but I can see where you're coming from, the fights will be nothing alike.. but he didn't get tagged cleanly several times by Barrios, they were all winging, missing shots.

                    Anyway, I'm sure Guzman is capable of producing power punches, but most of his punches are speedy and accurate, even if they are arm punches, he rocked Barrios on several occasions.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Boy_Malunggay
                      Yes! Morales is an elite fighter! Future Hall of Famer! Mexican Boxing Legend!

                      What did Guzman have proven aside a UD over an OVERWEIGHT FAT ASS BARRIOS who moves like Valuev?
                      Bwahahahah! Barrios was drained on that fight.

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