Should Pacquiao be ranked ahead of PBF in P4P ranks?

[miron_lang]

Who really cares what some idiots on Boxingscene thinks, have this poll on ESPN and I bet PBF will win this poll by 70%.

I love Pac but I'm not stipid!

P4P is really for who is the best fighter in the world, with the best skills and his name is PBF, I will have a tough time to put Pac in the top 10 when it comes to skills!

how can you prove that skill if you dont face legitimate threats?


pound for pound is about opinion. 66 thinks PAC is #1, you and 65 others have the opinion that PBF is #1. you're not ****** you only have your opinion.

[miron_lang]

thank you,

I take this post as an admission that there is no objective basis whatsoever for pac being p4p #1.

Objective? pound for pound?

pound for pound is subjective bro. unless you admit it our discussion is a no contest.



IMO PAC is #1 + 66 others

IYO PBF is #1 + 65 more

comprende?

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Pacquiao had the better year in 2006 but Floyd is still the better boxer. End of.

seriously pacman's 2006 saw him taking fights ONLY against opponents who lost their previous fight.

Baldomir had not lost a fight in 9 years and Judah's loss was against Baldomir

they are not p4p material but their recent performances were much better than Morales' and they were not moving up in weight TWO divisions like Larios.

[miron_lang]

seriously pacman's 2006 saw him taking fights ONLY against opponents who lost their previous fight.

Baldomir had not lost a fight in 9 years and Judah's loss was against Baldomir

they are not p4p material but their recent performances were much better than Morales' and they were not moving up in weight TWO divisions like Larios.

let me ask you a question. do you think PBF deserves Fighter of the year instead of PAC?

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Objective? pound for pound?

pound for pound is subjective bro. unless you admit it our discussion is a no contest.



IMO PAC is #1 + 66 others

IYO PBF is #1 + 65 more

comprende?

everything involving two fighters who did not meet in the ring is subjective.

however I find plenty of objectivity in saying that fighter A s better p4p than fighter B when

fighter A
1) was the man in 3 divisions
2) rarely lost a round in his entire career
3) his last two fights were against the current and last lineal champion of a division

fighter B
1) was stopped
2) lost to a fighter coming off a loss
3) lost the majority of rounds in a fight which started with him knocking down 3 times his opponent
4) did not fight any fighters who won their previous fight in the last year

[miron_lang]

everything involving two fighters who did not meet in the ring is subjective.

however I find plenty of objectivity in saying that fighter A s better p4p than fighter B when

fighter A
1) was the man in 3 divisions
2) rarely lost a round in his entire career
3) his last two fights were against the current and last lineal champion of a division

fighter B
1) was stopped
2) lost to a fighter coming off a loss
3) lost the majority of rounds in a fight which started with him knocking down 3 times his opponent
4) did not fight any fighters who won their previous fight in the last year

I agree with that However this may also apply.

Fighter A is better than fighter B when



Fighter A
1. Continuosly fight Elite competion
2. Kayoed a legend who was considered p4p #3
3. 'Technically' beaten a dangerous man who was 'avoided'
4. Kayoed another legend 2 times

Fighter B
1. Fights handpicked opponents from time to time
2. Is not agressive enough that fans walk out of his fight
3. Accused of ducking certain fighters.

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let me ask you a question. do you think PBF deserves Fighter of the year instead of PAC?

honestly i was not impressed by either

but, suppose I was extremely impressed with Pacman dismantling Morales and i thought that he was the most deserving fighter of the year in the history of ring magazine...

now let me ask you question: in how many years the fighter of the year award coincides with p4p number one?

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I agree with that However this may also apply.

Fighter A is better than fighter B when



Fighter A
1. Continuosly fight Elite competion
2. Kayoed a legend who was considered p4p #3
3. 'Technically' beaten a dangerous man who was 'avoided'
4. Kayoed another legend 2 times

Fighter B
1. Fights handpicked opponents from time to time
2. Is not agressive enough that fans walk out of his fight
3. Accused of ducking certain fighters.

A1. Elite competition who? fighters who just lost and/or are moving up in weight. go read again my year by year comparison
A2. sure, no doubt about that
A3. ???
A4. a legend who was slipping and just lost to Barrera, Raheem, and struggled badly with chavez. a legend who amidst these mediocre performances managed to beat fighter A.

B1. if you want to compare their resumes, you are free to do so, but i am afraid you would find unpleasant surprises.
B2. what does that have to do with p4p? did fighter B win that fight? yes. did he win it hands down? yes. the ppl who walked home better go watch ufc next time
B3. like Margarito? give me a break

[miron_lang]

honestly i was not impressed by either

but, suppose I was extremely impressed with Pacman dismantling Morales and i thought that he was the most deserving fighter of the year in the history of ring magazine...

now let me ask you question: in how many years the fighter of the year award coincides with p4p number one?

HHmmm i cant remember any fighter of the year coinciding with p4p

My question is just that. it has nothing to do with p4p.

[miron_lang]

A1. Elite competition who? fighters who just lost and/or are moving up in weight. go read again my year by year comparison
A2. sure, no doubt about that
A3. ???
A4. a legend who was slipping and just lost to Barrera, Raheem, and struggled badly with chavez. a legend who amidst these mediocre performances managed to beat fighter A.

B1. if you want to compare their resumes, you are free to do so, but i am afraid you would find unpleasant surprises.
B2. what does that have to do with p4p? did fighter B win that fight? yes. did he win it hands down? yes. the ppl who walked home better go watch ufc next time
B3. like Margarito? give me a break

Key Word ====> SUBJECTIVE.


Fan #1 : For me P4P #1 should KO all his opponents
Fan #2 : he should be a defensive wizard like Willie Pep
fan #3 : He should fight all contenders from around his division
Fan #4 : He should be able to do stunts like Naz


'SUBJECTIVE'

at least as of this minute more people agree with me than you