Can non-threshold susbtances have threshold type tests

[ADP02]

Every damn day I own you again. Either step up and agree to the rematch, or stop writing to me. All of your lies get continuously exposed and it's just annoying. You keep lying and lying and lying...it's not going to work, son.


Oh yea, but give me my points!!!!

4-0!!!!!!

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=740888

Maybe you're not a liar.....? Maybe you just can't remember what you say? lol

You old, crazy, senile bltch!

Then take on the challenge? You can't because you know that you LIED and CHEATED.


As for your previous posts, was there an agreement or not about the EPO documents?


QUESTIONs:
1) You have been bringing up certain EPO documents, right? That I referred to as well, right?

Are you stating that anything and everything that was referred in that document is game?



2) Or do you and did you even try to have the judges believe otherwise?








Go check it out. The last time you did this too once you didn't like the SCOPE that WE BOTH AGREED TO!!!! So this BS of yours is nothing new!!!



YOU ARE NOW DEFLECTING ON A QUESTION ON THAT.

For the 8th TIME!!!!


Simple question, did you take our agreement on the scope and agreement on the exclusion seriously when you were debating or were you basing it on something else?


Here is what you agreed to.

Originally Posted by ADP02

Its simple. Can or does EPO testing go thru threshold type tests?


It's up to you. No pressure. You can either go ahead and start this or say that you didn't understand my point and have no beef with my statement .... I will not hold it against you either way. Its up to you.

ADP02

Are you fine with my post? Let me know ...

Travestyny

Yes, I'm fine with it.

[travestyny]

This is what we have been arguing on for over 2 months now. This is what I challenged you on and even accepted your 2 exclusions from the debate.


You said that I am wrong and a liar about this, right?





TALK is CHEAP!!!!



So are you ready for the CHALLENGE?





LET's GO

DUCKER!!!!!!

Let’s go bltch. Waiting for you to accept the rematch so you can get banned from this site.

You down or not??? LET’s find out who the liar is. Accept and stop running. You are gonna get destroyed. I have so much proof of your ducking and lying. Is it your idea to keep ignoring everything that proves you are a liar??? Lmaooooo

[travestyny]

Then take on the challenge? You can't because you know that you LIED and CHEATED.


As for your previous posts, was there an agreement or not about the EPO documents?


QUESTIONs:
1) You have been bringing up certain EPO documents, right? That I referred to as well, right?

Are you stating that anything and everything that was referred in that document is game?



2) Or do you and did you even try to have the judges believe otherwise?








Go check it out. The last time you did this too once you didn't like the SCOPE that WE BOTH AGREED TO!!!! So this BS of yours is nothing new!!!



YOU ARE NOW DEFLECTING ON A QUESTION ON THAT.

For the 8th TIME!!!!


Simple question, did you take our agreement on the scope and agreement on the exclusion seriously when you were debating or were you basing it on something else?


Here is what you agreed to.

All you gotta do is prove it to the judge, son. Stop ducking me!!!

YOU EMBARRASSED YOURSELF AND EXPOSED YOURSELF AS A LIAR AGAIN!!!!!

Just remember your scope, son.

AGAIN:

1) BILLEAU2 (JUDGE) asked that we make our initial statements and to clarify any disagreements we have only after that point and to avoid each other BEFORE that point.

2) We both posted our statements

I also clearly stated several times that I will clarify my points as we go along.


3) Your statements was clearly out of scope and I brought that up

4) You asked me some questions

5) I responded by telling you to stop it with that GOT YOU GAME questions that are OUT OF SCOPE

6) You asked me a question ..... I stated NOT ONCE BUT TWICE THE SCOPE

7) YOU DID NOT OBJECT!!!!

8) You said that I can start my discussion

well, here you are .... playing the GOT YOU GAME instead of staying on scope!

SCOPE that YOU agreed on: Does the EPO technical document refer to threshold criteria?

WHILE OUT OF SCOPE, this specific criteria had an "and/OR" in which the panel was describing. In that if there were "additional evidence" that can be used to show evidence that the athlete was using EPO, it can be used.

You’re done. Begging me to let my foot off of your throat is not going to work. It’s not going to happen. Pay your debt and then if you want that rematch, let me know, ok.? I’ll be waiting.

4-0!!!!!!

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=740888

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[travestyny]

This post makes it clear that ADP02 won’t be taking that rematch. Lmaoooooo!!!!

EXACTLY. LET'S GO. BE A MAN. BECAUSE I'M ABOUT TO MURDER YOU ONCE MORE!!!! LMAOOOOOOOOO!




I'VE ALREADY MURDERED YOU OVER THIS, CLOWN. YOU WANT TO PLAY ******, BUT YOU WON'T DARE TAKE THE REMATCH WILL YOU.

HERE IT IS AGAIN CLOWN:



CRITERIA FROM THE 2004 DOCUMENT THAT ADP02 SAID WERE THRESHOLD CRITERIA, BUT THE CAS PANEL SAID WERE NOT THRESHOLD CRITERIA:



CRITERIA FROM THE 2014 DOCUMENT THAT ADP02 SAID WERE THRESHOLD CRITERIA:




He tried to justify it.




BUT UNFORTUNATELY FOR HIM, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT A THRESHOLD IS, SO HE WAS SHUT DOWN BY THE CAS PANEL:






NOT AT ALL. I'm telling you that your squirming isn't going to work, son. Wahhhhh....fight me with just your left....see if you can win then! Listen, little dude. The fact of the matter is my left is better than you using both of your hands, as the BAP was already declared not a threshold twice over. But as I told you already, you lose DOUBLY. That's because not only was it declared not a threshold, but it does not exist in the relevant document. This is why you won't accept the rematch. But wait....you are trying to squirm and say that all of the documents are in scope, though you were already BUSTED saying the 2009 document is out of scope. So that leads to this.







lmaooooo. Now this is going to be funny!


Here you are telling me where the scope came from. You said that after Billeau told us to ignore each other until after our initial statements were posted, then you made clear what the scope was. Here is the proof.




HERE YOU ARE DOUBLING DOWN ON WHAT POSTS OF YOURS STATED THE SCOPE....COMING AFTER BILLEAU TOLD US TO IGNORE EACH OTHER.



SO....WHEN DID BILLEAU TELL US TO IGNORE EACH OTHER?????

post #135




SO WAS YOUR POST BEFORE THAT OR AFTER THAT?


OH, THAT'S RIGHT. IT WAS BEFORE.

POST #87




SO THEN WHAT WERE THE TWO POSTS THAT CAME AFTER BILLEAU TOLD US TO IGNORE EACH OTHER THAT YOU STATED OVER AND OVER GAVE THE SCOPE?????

POST #146

AND

POST #157

IN FACT, YOU GAVE A WHOLE DAMN ROAD MAP OF WHERE TO FIND THE SCOPE. DIDN'T YOU???????

ONE POST AFTER THE ABOVE POST, MAKING IT CLEAR WHAT YOU BELIEVED THE SCOPE WAS:

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU EXPLICITLY SAID THE SCOPE CAME AFTER BILLEAU TOLD US TO IGNORE EACH OTHER. YOUR POST THAT YOU NOW CLAIM TO BE THE SCOPE CAME WAY BEFORE THAT POINT. THE POSTS THAT YOU CLAIM CAME AFTER....ARE EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN POSTING THAT YOU SAID. SO WHO IS THE LIAR ADP? LMAOOOOOOOOOOO.

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MOVE TO GET THE JUDGES IN ON THIS. ARE YOU DOWN YET? LMAOOOOOOO!!!!!

YOU GAVE A WHOLE ROAD MAP ABOUT THE SCOPE THAT BODIES YOU!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE THE BIGGEST FVVVCK UP IN THE HISTORY OF DEBATING. LMAOOOOO

YOUR LATEST LIE AND DEFLECTION JUST WENT DOWN THE DRAINNNNN!

R.I.P.

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OOOOOPSSSS!!! YOU FVVCKED UP, DUMMY. YOU BODIED YOURSELF A YEAR AGO!!!! AHAHAHAHAHHA

[Spoon23]

WTF is this??

This is a a new show down. Why talk about the past. This is Now. ADP02 called you out! And you accepted. And days and months have past. You can't even stand up for a throw down. You biatchin' for days Travesty. Have some dignity. You talkin' like a whiny biatch who wants more divk haha

The guntlet has been thrown. The cast has been dyed. Time to put up or shut Travesty.

Move or Run away.

[ADP02]

We've already gone through it and had an official statement from a Court of Arbitration for Sports panel, which WADA itself says is the "Supreme Court" of sports.

1.5 years ago ADP lost a debate about this 4-0 BECAUSE official statements were given on this topic, but he is still claiming I cheated, all of the judges cheated, and he refuses to pay his debt. Even if he wants to keep the points, he should have the decency to just buzz off already instead of continuing to cry when it has been established that he is 100% wrong.

DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO THE CAS PANEL

Court of Arbitration for Sport

There really isn't anything else to discuss, but the dude won't stop crying and as a result, he's just been getting caught in straight up lie after lie after lie here because he can't live with this 4-0 loss. It's time for him to get over it and move on with his life already!

This is what we have been arguing on for over 2 months now. This is what I challenged you on and even accepted your 2 exclusions from the debate.


You said that I am wrong and a liar about this, right?





TALK is CHEAP!!!!



So are you ready for the CHALLENGE?





LET's GO

DUCKER!!!!!!

WTF is this??

This is a a new show down. Why talk about the past. This is Now. ADP02 called you out! And you accepted. And days and months have past. You can't even stand up for a throw down. You biatchin' for days Travesty. Have some dignity. You talkin' like a whiny biatch who wants more divk haha

Spoon,

The turtle got the courage to stick out his head and act brave for a single post. Then once I reminded him that there is a CHALLENGE on this, he turtles his head back into his body!!!

[ADP02]

All you gotta do is prove it to the judge, son. Stop ducking me!!!

YOU EMBARRASSED YOURSELF AND EXPOSED YOURSELF AS A LIAR AGAIN!!!!!

Just remember your scope, son.

You’re done. Begging me to let my foot off of your throat is not going to work. It’s not going to happen. Pay your debt and then if you want that rematch, let me know, ok.? I’ll be waiting.

4-0!!!!!!

This post makes it clear that ADP02 won’t be taking that rematch. Lmaoooooo!!!!



OOOOOPSSSS!!! YOU FVVCKED UP, DUMMY. YOU BODIED YOURSELF A YEAR AGO!!!! AHAHAHAHAHHA

There is only 1 place where we BOTH agreed to the scope. Can you find where that is?




Go check it out. The last time you did this too once you didn't like the SCOPE that WE BOTH AGREED TO!!!! So this BS of yours is nothing new!!!



YOU ARE NOW DEFLECTING ON A QUESTION ON THAT.

For the 9th TIME!!!!


Simple question, did you take our agreement on the scope and agreement on the exclusion seriously when you were debating or were you basing it on something else?


Here is what you agreed to.

Originally Posted by ADP02

Its simple. Can or does EPO testing go thru threshold type tests?


It's up to you. No pressure. You can either go ahead and start this or say that you didn't understand my point and have no beef with my statement .... I will not hold it against you either way. Its up to you.

ADP02

Are you fine with my post? Let me know ...

Travestyny

Yes, I'm fine with it.

[travestyny]

There is only 1 place where we BOTH agreed to the scope. Can you find where that is?




Go check it out. The last time you did this too once you didn't like the SCOPE that WE BOTH AGREED TO!!!! So this BS of yours is nothing new!!!



YOU ARE NOW DEFLECTING ON A QUESTION ON THAT.

For the 9th TIME!!!!


Simple question, did you take our agreement on the scope and agreement on the exclusion seriously when you were debating or were you basing it on something else?


Here is what you agreed to.

Then all you have to do is show your proof of the scope to the judges. WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FVVCK IS THE PROBLEM, ADP???

Your proof against mine. THATS WHAT A DEBATE IS.

ARE YOU DOWN OR WILL YOU PVSSY OUT???

[Spoon23]

Spoon,

The turtle got the courage to stick out his head and act brave for a single post. Then once I reminded him that there is a CHALLENGE on this, he turtles his head back into his body!!!

lol She's like a turtle. When its about to get real her head goes into a shell. Typical biatch ass Travesty.

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[ADP02]

Then all you have to do is show your proof of the scope to the judges. WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FVVCK IS THE PROBLEM, ADP???

Your proof against mine. THATS WHAT A DEBATE IS.

ARE YOU DOWN OR WILL YOU PVSSY OUT???

Nope.

I think that you had a bit of time and read some discussions we had during the debate.

You tried to weasel out of not only the scope but your statements as well!


You said WADA documentS. Am I right?



Except for what I provide,
Your posts, that are out of context, never say that you actually agreed with what I said, did it? We were quarrelling on you constantly trying to move the goal posts of the scope.

So here you are again doing the same!!!!


There was only 1 place where we agreed to the SCOPE and we both no that there was only 1 exclusion that we BOTH agreed on.


BUT there is more:
- You post but do not keep anything in context

Meaning that we were actually arguing that you were using as "scope" what you agreed to "exclude" as scope. Even your statement was 90% on threshold susbtances!!!! Something that we BOTH AGREED to exclude!!!!




Like I said before, you are OK using an old case, document but if I would, it is out of scope!!!


example: You used as evidence to get a vote or 2 something from 2003!!!!! The EPO document that you references wasn't even in effect yet!!!!

You came up with a BS excuse that it is similar so you used it. REALLY?

I do not believe that Mr BS!

1) I also said that those WADA documents are ALL similar.
Since you are agreeing, you must agree with the FULL context of my statements!!! Right?


2) Do you remember Mr BS what you said about the WADA 2004 EPO document?

Travestyny

FIRST OF ALL, NO...THEY AREN'T SIMILAR. YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE 2004 DOCUMENT FOR WHAT WAS BEING DONE IN 2006, AND THAT DID NOT INCLUDE SAR-PAGE OR SDS-PAGE.

So LIAR, what were you saying?



So when you post next time, let us know if you are in agreement with my post or NOT, DEFLECTOR and CHEATER!!!


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