Can non-threshold susbtances have threshold type tests
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Let's do a little recap shall we?
1. You went so far as to claim that this was never about Mayweather just so you can try to desperately duck your 4-0 loss you cheating scumbag!!!!!!!
Ahemmmmm.
You said thresholds are not a factor for Floyd but that is not an accurate statement.
EPO, testosterone (T/E) ratios are a few naturally produced substances in humans in which Floyd could have been trying to hide. We know of low T/E ratios, rumors of positive results and the IV scandal.
So if GC/MS or whatever measures EPO values below a threshold, as an example, due to a 6 hour delay and drinking fluids plus an IV that diluted the urine sample just enough.
Its NOT being biased. that is a big deal.
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BUSTED!!!!!
2. You are now desperately trying to change the scope of the 1.5 year old debate because you know you have NOTHING.. Trying to lay your hat on an old criteria that was, like I said, both not a threshold AND not in scope. YOU EVEN ADMITTED IT WAS OUT OF SCOPE BUT NOW YOU HAVE AMNESIA BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE OF THAT 4-0 ASSWHIPPIN 1.5 YEARS AGO!!!!.
Originally posted by ADP022) WHILE OUT OF SCOPE, this specific criteria had an "and/OR" in which the panel was describing. In that if there were "additional evidence" that can be used to show evidence that the athlete was using EPO, it can be used.BUSTEDDDD!!!!
3. You've declined every challenge I offered you here, from challenges specifically about that court case, challenges specifically about the BAP, AND A REMATCH.
ADP DECLINED
What's up, pvssy? You going to answer? I mean, you keep claiming that you won and that I duped someone. But when I offered you a rematch, you renounced your statements!!!!!
That's called putting up the white flag, bltchYou're done. Unless you want that rematch. Let me know, yea?
Rematch????
Would you accept a rematch against Travestyny in the Thunderdome?But would you accept a rematch with Travestyny in the Thunderdome, with posters that you both agree on as the judges?Would you be willing to rematch Travestyny in the Thunderdome with regular posters as judges, though?
BUSTEDDDD!!!!
ADP IS GOING TO CRY FOR YEARS ABOUT THAT 4-0 LOSS. STOP BEGGING FOR ATTENTION, BlTCH. YOU NEVER HAD ANY BALLS AND NOW YOU HAVE NO HEAD BECAUSE I DECAPITATED YOU 4-0!!!! CHOKE ON IT AND DIE, BlTCH. BUT GIVE ME MY POINTS!!!
4-0!!!!!!
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Let's do a little recap shall we?
1. You went so far as to claim that this was never about Mayweather just so you can try to desperately duck your 4-0 loss you cheating scumbag!!!!!!!
Ahemmmmm.
YOUR STATEMENT LOOKS STRAIGHT UP IDIOTIC RIGHT NOW, AS I'VE PROVEN EXACTLY WHAT I TOLD YOU. YOU ARE FULL OF SHlT AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FVVCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!! I BET YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT DUMB SHlT YOU SAID ANYMORE. YOUR CONSPIRACY THEORY JUST WENT DOWN THE DRAIN!!!!
BUSTED!!!!!
2. You are now desperately trying to change the scope of the 1.5 year old debate because you know you have NOTHING.. Trying to lay your hat on an old criteria that was, like I said, both not a threshold AND not in scope. YOU EVEN ADMITTED IT WAS OUT OF SCOPE BUT NOW YOU HAVE AMNESIA BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE OF THAT 4-0 ASSWHIPPIN 1.5 YEARS AGO!!!!.
BUSTEDDDD!!!!
3. You've declined every challenge I offered you here, from challenges specifically about that court case, challenges specifically about the BAP, AND A REMATCH.
ADP DECLINED!
ADP DECLINED
ADP DECLINED
ADP DECLINED
ADP DECLINED
ADP DECLINED
ADP ACCEPTED......AND THEN DECLINED ONE POST LATER!
Rematch????
BUSTEDDDD!!!!
ADP IS GOING TO CRY FOR YEARS ABOUT THAT 4-0 LOSS. STOP BEGGING FOR ATTENTION, BlTCH. YOU NEVER HAD ANY BALLS AND NOW YOU HAVE NO HEAD BECAUSE I DECAPITATED YOU 4-0!!!! CHOKE ON IT AND DIE, BlTCH. BUT GIVE ME MY POINTS!!!
4-0!!!!!!
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ENJOY YOUR PADDED ROOM!
Yawn,
Mr DUCK, are you still looking for ways to DEFLECT from what we originally agreed to?
There was just 1 limitation and you fouled constantly with that one. This was not a topic about threshold substances as per our agreement
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even your initial statements was about threshold susbtances and you kept doing that throughout the debate. So that should have been a DQ right there since you couldn't even limit it on the 1 item that we did agree to!!!!
Secondly, MR DUCK, you even said it yourself just before we agreed (same thread) that it was NOT about Floyd nor Manny!!! Oooops!!!
Travestyny
This is not even a Floyd vs. Manny issue. This is a very simple look at some information about WADA and analyze it issue.
BUSTED!!!!!
Finally, you said a few things such as, WADA never had threshold type tests for EPO. In fact, you went 2 steps further and said this. Meaning, even the old BAP was not a threshold type test nor can there be for any non-threshold substances!!!!
Travestyny
NO I DIDN'T MORON. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO KEEPS TALKING ABOUT THRESHOLDS WHEN THE CAS SAID THERE ARE NO THRESHOLDS. LMAOOOOOOOOOO. YOU CLAIM TO BE SMART BUT YOU STILL CAN'T UNDERSTAND THIS SIMPLE CONCEPT!!!!! I TOLD YOU AT THE BEGINNING...
GOOD LUCK PROVING THAT A NON-THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE RELIES ON THRESHOLD TESTS...YOU MORON!!!
and even in that post that YOU provided, you can see that I mentioned T/E RATIO!!!! Oooops!
That is also one marker that is related to ABP. Ooops! I'm sure that I mentioned T/E Ratio more than 1 time!
Like I said, we limited the first debate to 1 thing and you couldn't even do that right!!!
but there are 2 challenges now.
This 2nd challenge is CLEAR now, right? SO what is the DELAY?????
So as you can see, it is about AVOIDING more than debating for you!!!
ARE YOU UP TO THE 2 CHALLENGES?
YES BOTH!!!!!
LETs GET IT ON!!!!!!
This is embarrassing Travestyny, we are on 34+ pages. It is time to be a man, son!!!!
STOP THE DEFLECTIONs, THE LIES, THE CHEATING and NOW THE FREAKING CRYING!!!!
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Yawn,
Mr DUCK, are you still looking for ways to DEFLECT from what we originally agreed to?
There was just 1 limitation and you fouled constantly with that one. This was not a topic about threshold substances as per our agreement
but
even your initial statements was about threshold susbtances and you kept doing that throughout the debate. So that should have been a DQ right there since you couldn't even limit it on the 1 item that we did agree to!!!!
THIS WAS NOT A FLOYD/MANNY ISSUE MORON. THIS WAS A FLOYD TESTING ISSUE. AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE THAT IS FUVVCKING HYSTERICAL.
NO PERSON WHO IS BEING HONEST WOULD SAY THAT THIS WHOLE THING WASN'T ABOUT THE MAYWEATHER IV. THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU ARE SO DESTROYED BY YOUR LOSS THAT YOU ARE BLATANTLY TRYING TO CHEAT. AHAHAHAHAHAHA. I LOVE THAT I DID THIS TO YOU. EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT A LYING PIECE OF SHlT YOU ARE!!!!!!
So what you're saying is that you admit your Floyd EPO theory was bullshlt. Thank you for that. Second. Take this!
BEFORE THE DEBATE BEGAN
Originally posted by travestynyWhen he comes with his information, I'll easily prove that his info is outdated and not applicable.
Originally posted by travestyny2. ADP02's information is largely outdated. The purpose of this debate is not to go back to a time before WADA was doing testing or when WADA was experimenting on how to test for EPO. It's also not to talk about what may happen in the future. This is to discuss testing in present times. By present times, we mean around the time of May 2nd, 2015
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS? YOU STILL HAVE NO ANSWER. BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Originally posted by ADP022) WHILE OUT OF SCOPE, this specific criteria had an "and/OR" in which the panel was describing. In that if there were "additional evidence" that can be used to show evidence that the athlete was using EPO, it can be used.
BUSTEDDDDDD!!!
YOU CAN'T WIN YOU DUMB BlTCH!
Originally posted by travestyny2. ADP02's information is largely outdated. The purpose of this debate is not to go back to a time before WADA was doing testing or when WADA was experimenting on how to test for EPO. It's also not to talk about what may happen in the future. This is to discuss testing in present times. By present times, we mean around the time of May 2nd, 2015
LOOK AT YOU TRYING TO SQUIRRRRRRRMMMMM. THAT'S THE FUNNIEST THING ABOUT THIS WHO SHlT. WHAT WAS THIS ABOUT, ADP? HOW DID WE START TALKING ABOUT EPO? YOU COMPLETELY LIED TO VAGISIL SAYING WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT EPO. WHO WERE WE TALKING ABOUT YOU LYING BlTCH???
You said thresholds are not a factor for Floyd but that is not an accurate statement.
EPO, testosterone (T/E) ratios are a few naturally produced substances in humans in which Floyd could have been trying to hide. We know of low T/E ratios, rumors of positive results and the IV scandal.
So if GC/MS or whatever measures EPO values below a threshold, as an example, due to a 6 hour delay and drinking fluids plus an IV that diluted the urine sample just enough.
Its NOT being biased. that is a big deal.
.
EXPLAINNNNNNN.... LMAOOOOOO!!!! BUSTEDDDD!!!!!
Finally, you said a few things such as, WADA never had threshold type tests for EPO. In fact, you went 2 steps further and said this. Meaning, even the old BAP was not a threshold type test nor can there be for any non-threshold substances!!!!
and even in that post that YOU provided, you can see that I mentioned T/E RATIO!!!! Oooops!
That is also one marker that is related to ABP. Ooops! I'm sure that I mentioned T/E Ratio more than 1 time!
Like I said, we limited the first debate to 1 thing and you couldn't even do that right!!!
but there are 2 challenges now.
This 2nd challenge is CLEAR now, right? SO what is the DELAY?????
So as you can see, it is about AVOIDING more than debating for you!!!
ARE YOU UP TO THE 2 CHALLENGES?
YES BOTH!!!!!
LETs GET IT ON!!!!!!
This is embarrassing Travestyny, we are on 34+ pages. It is time to be a man, son!!!!
STOP THE DEFLECTIONs, THE LIES, THE CHEATING and NOW THE FREAKING CRYING!!!!
1. TELL US WHAT YOU THOUGHT THE SCOPE WAS. THEN EXPLAIN WHY YOU SAID THE 2009 DOCUMENT WAS OUT OF SCOPE. LET'S SEE YOUR ANSWER. I'LL BE WAITING.
2. SAY THAT THIS WASN'T ABOUT MAYWEATHER TESTING, THEN EXPLAIN WHY YOUR POSTS WERE ABOUT...MAYWEATHER TESTING. LET'S SEE OUR ANSWER!!!!!
YOU DUCKED LIKE 7 CHALLENGES HERE AND YOU DUCKED THE REMATCH. THAT'S WHY I OWN YOUR SOUL YOU LITTLE *****. TRYING TO SQIRM OUT OF IT WON'T WORK WHEN I HAVE SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT DESTROYS YOU!
THAT WAS A GOOD TRY. NOT REALLY. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ENJOY YOUR PADDED ROOM, BlTCH!!!!!
4-0!!!!!!
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I BEAT THE LIVING SHlT OUT OF YOU AND YOU CAN'T MOVE ON. LMAOOOOOOOO!!!!! DIDN'T I TELL YOU THAT WHEN THE DEBATE ENDS I WAS GOING TO CLOWN YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR TIME HERE????? YOU HAD TO TAKE A FVVCKING BREAK FROM POSTING, YOU DECIDED TO COME BACK WITH SOME NEW LIES, BUT YOU CAN'T SHAKE WHAT WAS SET IN STONE, BlTCH. THE DEBATE WAS 1.5 YEARS AGO AND YOU CAN'T MOVE ON.
That's what you call RUINING SOMEONE'S LIFE. KILL YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!
4-0!!!!!!
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THIS WAS NOT A FLOYD/MANNY ISSUE MORON. THIS WAS A FLOYD TESTING ISSUE. AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE THAT IS FUVVCKING HYSTERICAL.
NO PERSON WHO IS BEING HONEST WOULD SAY THAT THIS WHOLE THING WASN'T ABOUT THE MAYWEATHER IV. THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU ARE SO DESTROYED BY YOUR LOSS THAT YOU ARE BLATANTLY TRYING TO CHEAT. AHAHAHAHAHAHA. I LOVE THAT I DID THIS TO YOU. EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT A LYING PIECE OF SHlT YOU ARE!!!!!!
So what you're saying is that you admit your Floyd EPO theory was bullshlt. Thank you for that. Second. Take this!
BEFORE THE DEBATE BEGAN
MY FIRST REPLY TO YOUR INFORMATION.
BOOM!!!!! BUT IF THAT AINT ENOUGH.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS? YOU STILL HAVE NO ANSWER. BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BUSTEDDDDDD!!!
YOU CAN'T WIN YOU DUMB BlTCH!
ONE MORE TIME!!!!!
LOOK AT YOU TRYING TO SQUIRRRRRRRMMMMM. THAT'S THE FUNNIEST THING ABOUT THIS WHO SHlT. WHAT WAS THIS ABOUT, ADP? HOW DID WE START TALKING ABOUT EPO? YOU COMPLETELY LIED TO VAGISIL SAYING WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT EPO. WHO WERE WE TALKING ABOUT YOU LYING BlTCH???
EXPLAINNNNNNN.... LMAOOOOOO!!!! BUSTEDDDD!!!!!
LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE DEFLECTIONS. DUDE, YOU GOT YOUR ASS BEAT AND THAT'S THAT. YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE SCOPE NOW BECAUSE YOU GOT YOUR ASS BEAT? LMAOOOOOOO. SUCK MY BIG FAT C@CK!
1. TELL US WHAT YOU THOUGHT THE SCOPE WAS. THEN EXPLAIN WHY YOU SAID THE 2009 DOCUMENT WAS OUT OF SCOPE. LET'S SEE YOUR ANSWER. I'LL BE WAITING.
2. SAY THAT THIS WASN'T ABOUT MAYWEATHER TESTING, THEN EXPLAIN WHY YOUR POSTS WERE ABOUT...MAYWEATHER TESTING. LET'S SEE OUR ANSWER!!!!!
YOU DUCKED LIKE 7 CHALLENGES HERE AND YOU DUCKED THE REMATCH. THAT'S WHY I OWN YOUR SOUL YOU LITTLE *****. TRYING TO SQIRM OUT OF IT WON'T WORK WHEN I HAVE SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT DESTROYS YOU!
THAT WAS A GOOD TRY. NOT REALLY. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ENJOY YOUR PADDED ROOM, BlTCH!!!!!
4-0!!!!!!
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BUT what did you say, DEFLECTOR?
See, you do not even believe what you posted back then! You said it is NOT about Floyd and Manny! Ooops!
As for those other posts that you provided, they have already been explained.
a) None were part of any agreement that we made at the start of the thread.
b) You just found what I meant. You provided me the quote that made you say, OOOPs, this guy is going to bust my line that "WADA never had threshold tests for EPO". That is, the debate had already started and you saw by then that you were WRONG so you were TRYING to limit the discussion!!!
c) BTW - This is NOT the only time you did that. You even limited what criteria from which document was still valid LIAR and CHEAT!!!!!
d) By you using a case that was basically on a drug abuse from about 2003, you opened this wide open!!! That case was mainly about BAP testing. On top of that, you got those statements WRONG and LIED & CHEATED your way and abused because you knew that the judges wouldn't pick up what you were saying(lying) and so they believed it!
MRPL-Parameter - You used that to confuse judge #2, at least.
Limit (BUT we had no limits) to confirmation tests when you thought there may be threshold type tests for screening/presumptive testing for EPO. - You did that throughout but did that AGAIN soon after Zaroku popped in.
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OH, I'M SORRY. I LEFT OUT ONE OF YOUR DEFLECTIONS THAT EVEN THE JUDGES DIDN'T FALL FOR!!!!
HERE YOU GO!
Originally posted by travestynyOk, revised challenge to accommodate the cowardly, cheating ADP02.
Topic: Is EPO measured using "threshold criteria" by WADA labs?
NOW TELL ME, DOES THE ABP MEASURE EPO? Hmmmm. Let's let WADA handle that.
The fundamental principle of the Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) is to monitor selected biological variables over time that indirectly reveal the effects of doping rather than attempting to detect the doping substance or method itself.
YOU CAN'T WIN YOU CHEATING, DEFLECTING, DUMB BlTCH.
LOOK AT THAT QUOTATION WITH THE TOPIC ABOVE. YOU WERE ALWAYS A COWARD AND A CHEAT. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE NOW IS YOU'RE MY BlTCH. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! WOOOOOO!
PAY ME THE POINTS YOU OWE, YOU DI****ABLE F@GGOT! I CAN SMELL YOUR ***** FROM HERE!
4-0!!!!!!
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1. By starting this whole thing about his IV you lying sack of shlt!!!!!
2. By saying the TD2009EPO document was OUT OF SCOPE. That reveals you knew this was about present day testing. Or is that wrong?
Let's see you twist that. ANSWER UP BlTCH!
IT'S OVER. YOU SAID IT AND YOU CAN'T GO BACK BlTCH. GIVE THE FVVCK UP. YOUR LIFE WAS RUINED 1.5 YEARS AGO, YOU WERE MENTALLY SCARRED, AND YOU CAN'T RECOVER!!!!
b) You just found what I meant. You provided me the quote that made you say, OOOPs, this guy is going to bust my line that "WADA never had threshold tests for EPO". That is, the debate had already started and you saw by then that you were WRONG so you were TRYING to limit the discussion!!!
c) BTW - This is NOT the only time you did that. You even limited what criteria from which document was still valid LIAR and CHEAT!!!!!
d) By you using a case that was basically on a drug abuse from about 2003, you opened this wide open!!! That case was mainly about BAP testing. On top of that, you got those statements WRONG and LIED & CHEATED your way and abused because you knew that the judges wouldn't pick up what you were saying(lying) and so they believed it!
MRPL-Parameter - You used that to confuse judge #2, at least.
Limit (BUT we had no limits) to confirmation tests when you thought there may be threshold type tests for screening/presumptive testing for EPO. - You did that throughout but did that AGAIN soon after Zaroku popped in.
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WHAT THE FUVVVCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. DID YOU SAY IT OR NOT? UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!! ZAROKU WAS THERE WHEN YOU WERE CRYING OVER AND OVER ABOUT THE SCOPE. YOU DON'T GET TO CHANGE THAT NOW YOU CRYING SACK OF SHlT. YOU ARE LESS THAN A MAN. YOU ARE FVVCKING ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC. LOG OUT AND DON'T COME BACK ANYMORE. I'M DONE WITH YOU, YOU FVVCKING LOWLIFE, LYING, WRETCHED BlTCH THAT IS GOING TO CRY FOR YEARS AND YEARS OVER A 1.5 YEAR OLD DEBATE ON A WEBSITE THAT HE LOST 4-0. WHAT KIND OF HUMAN BEING ARE YOU? GET A FVVCKING LIFE OR KILL YOURSELF!!!!!
4-0!!!!!!
YOU'RE DONE, BlTCH. PAY ME MY FUVVCKING POINTS THAT YOU OWE, STOP CRYING, LOG THE FVVCK OUT...OR JUST END YOUR LIFE!
HE DIDN'T MAKE IT. MAN DOWNNNN!!!!!
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OH, I'M SORRY. I LEFT OUT ONE OF YOUR DEFLECTIONS THAT EVEN THE JUDGES DIDN'T FALL FOR!!!!
HERE YOU GO!
NOW TELL ME, DOES THE ABP MEASURE EPO? Hmmmm. Let's let WADA handle that.
YOU CAN'T WIN YOU CHEATING, DEFLECTING, DUMB BlTCH.
LOOK AT THAT QUOTATION WITH THE TOPIC ABOVE. YOU WERE ALWAYS A COWARD AND A CHEAT. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE NOW IS YOU'RE MY BlTCH. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! WOOOOOO!
PAY ME THE POINTS YOU OWE, YOU DI****ABLE F@GGOT! I CAN SMELL YOUR ***** FROM HERE!
4-0!!!!!!
That statement of yours is NOT even acceptable!!!!
There is no measurement of EPO quantity!!! How much EPO did they find?That is for threshold susbtances perhaps and got that statement WRONG!!!!
BUT as I can see, you found no statement of us agreeing to any limitations, right?
It is simple. Instead of looking after the start, or in another thread.
GO FIND what we agreed to.
Do you see agreeing to limit the discussion other than it was not about threshold susbtances, which YOU FAILED at doing, anyways?
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WHAT WAS THAT?????? REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID!!!!!
REST IN MUTHAFVVCKING PEACE, BlTCH. BUT GIMME MY POINTS FIRST. MY WORK HERE IS DONE!
I'M OUT!
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