Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[Spoon23]

How can you say I’m like a juror who pre judged a case .I told you I bet on pac man watched the fight and after the last bell I was convinced I lost.I didn’t have to watch your propaganda videos to know the answer .Im just getting back on my feet after a bad accident they tell me I had a traumatic brain injury and I wasn’t all that smart to begin with.I can’t concentrate eneough to watch your videos.You need to let it go.

Then why go in? No one forced you to go in this thread bud. All I'm saying don't prejudge a case without reading it. These is not propaganda. Those are facts in a form of videos. No one told you that you have to come in. But like most threads in a forum. It is assumed that one must read the thread you enter in, if you are to contribute to the topic at hand, otherwise, you're like a heckler just making noise to fit your narrative. Just saying.. Ethics 101 bud.

Sorry about your accident. Hope you get well soon.

Anyway, you don't have to be in here, if you can't take the heat and see the proofs presented in the front page that anyone can try to dispute, get out of the kitchen. It's a free world. No one forced you to see these facts bud.

Like I said even Floyd himself knows he fuvked up.

Floyd Mayweather: " I owe them for the Pacquiao fight "

LINK:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/08/27/i-owe-them-for-the-pacquaio-fight-mayweather-pleases-fans-with-win-over-mcgregor/?utm_term=.89dc0b6bea1b

Even in the Mayweather Gym, they know it was a robbery lol


Jeff Mayweather ask the first dude on the left what was the biggest Robbery?

His answer was Bradley Pac 1.

Jeff then ask his bro, Floyd Sr what was the biggest Robbery in boxing history?


A BOXER in the TMT GYM goes, PACQUIAO MAYWEATHER!



EVEN IN THE TMT GYM THEY KNOW IT WAS A FLUKE WIN, A ROBBERY LOLOLOLOLOL


Starts @ 0:45

[Spoon23]

That was my point. You use this as an argument to defend Pacquiao...but did Marquez ever fail a drug test of any kind in his entire career?

No.

Like I said, you'll never get it. You just don't have the capacity of having any critical thinking. You are going in circles. I already said I gave that win to Marquez. So stop whining about it. You're like a broken record.

lol I actually did answer it. You just brushed it off.. I gave strong facts that support why I think Pac was and is clean compared to Marquez. In addition, over a 4 decades have past and to this day, Pac never failed a drug test, not once in his PRO CAREER whether it's USADA, VADA, WADA, NSAC or other forms of tests in his years of being a pro fighter, more than most pro boxers have ever been tested in their whole boxing career.

That said, this was my previous reply to you below that you conveniently brushed off, since you fuvked up again.




Now, regarding your double standard.

The sad part is, you keep exposing yourself for your hypocrisy and double standard. You have problems with Pacquiao having to not agree with IV Floyd's fake terms in moving the goal post and Pac not agreeing with his ridiculous demands for Floyd Olympic style Fake testing and the fact that it's enough for you to prejudge Pac as a CHEAT, but your double standards exposes you for not even considering Marquez hiring a trainer (MEMO HEREDIA) who was a known PED cheat that gave Marion Jones 5 gold medals in the Olympics is not a red flag. Just destroys whatever argument you have yourself. Your selective reasoning shows your biased, I wouldn't have any problem with you if you said that in your point of view, that to you, both Pac and Marquez may have been cheating. But the thing is, you got exposed for having selective prejudicism to one. Shows you have an agenda that doesn't fit your narrative. You can't see Marquez as a cheat, but you can see Pac as one with baseless assumptions. Shows your motive.

And that is why you have failed for the last time.

Again I leave you with this.


Like I said, even if you watch this video below a thousand times you will never get it. You are too naive and innocent. Stay there. You'll be safe in your bubble.

Stay naive kid.

Shout this out bruh!!

Marquez is clean Alleluia!

Ignorance is bliss! Alrrrriggggght!

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Stay naive kid.

You are too naive and innocent. Stay there. You'll be safe in your bubble. No need to reply. We get it already, you are naive and ******. Stay there Kid.lololol




Bonus facts you'll never get courtesy of D4

[Zaroku]

in slow motion are you sad kobe died.... living a good better life than us normal people..

[ShoulderRoll]

Like I said, you'll never get it. You just don't have the capacity of having any critical thinking. You are going in circles. I already said I gave that win to Marquez. So stop whining about it. You're like a broken record.

You say Pacquiao never failed a test in his career.

I say Marquez never failed a test in his career either.

Do you at least agree that this part of your argument gets you nowhere and has to be thrown away?

[Longhaul]

Then why go in? No one forced you to go in this thread bud. All I'm saying don't prejudge a case without reading it. These is not propaganda. Those are facts in a form of videos. No one told you that you have to come in. But like most threads in a forum. It is assumed that one must read the thread you enter in, if you are to contribute to the topic at hand, otherwise, you're like a heckler just making noise to fit your narrative. Just saying.. Ethics 101 bud.

Sorry about your accident. Hope you get well soon.

Anyway, you don't have to be in here, if you can't take the heat and see the proofs presented in the front page that anyone can try to dispute, get out of the kitchen. It's a free world. No one forced you to see these facts bud.

Like I said even Floyd himself knows he fuvked up.

Floyd Mayweather: " I owe them for the Pacquiao fight "

LINK:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/08/27/i-owe-them-for-the-pacquaio-fight-mayweather-pleases-fans-with-win-over-mcgregor/?utm_term=.89dc0b6bea1b

Even in the Mayweather Gym, they know it was a robbery lol


Jeff Mayweather ask the first dude on the left what was the biggest Robbery?

His answer was Bradley Pac 1.

Jeff then ask his bro, Floyd Sr what was the biggest Robbery in boxing history?


A BOXER in the TMT GYM goes, PACQUIAO MAYWEATHER!



EVEN IN THE TMT GYM THEY KNOW IT WAS A FLUKE WIN, A ROBBERY LOLOLOLOLOL


Starts @ 0:45

just a matter of two different opinions I watched the fight and was biased because of my financial stake in Pac-Man and was clearly convinced he lost the fight .Just like Canelo vs GGG everybody has different views .

[Spoon23]

You say Pacquiao never failed a test in his career.

I say Marquez never failed a test in his career either.

Do you at least agree that this part of your argument gets you nowhere and has to be thrown away?

First of all, that is not my premise. Don't put words in my mouth so you can make sense to your being NAIVE. That is your argument that just because Floyd never failed a drug test (he actually did 3 failed drug test) he should always be considered clean. Just as Marquez never failed a drug test so in your own words these guys should be considered clean coz they didn't get caught. That's how shallow or gullible you are to be fooled that easily. So many red flags that you can't see, but like I said, you're either ignorant or you just ignoring the facts that surrounds these men. Stay gullible my friend. Ignorance is Bliss.


Now, regarding your double standard.

The sad part is, you keep exposing yourself for your hypocrisy and double standard. You have problems with Pacquiao having to not agree with IV Floyd's fake terms in moving the goal post and Pac not agreeing with his ridiculous demands for Floyd Olympic style Fake testing and the fact that it's enough for you to prejudge Pac as a CHEAT, but your double standards exposes you for not even considering Marquez hiring a trainer (MEMO HEREDIA) who was a known PED cheat that gave Marion Jones 5 gold medals in the Olympics is not a red flag. Just destroys whatever argument you have yourself. Your selective reasoning shows your biased, I wouldn't have any problem with you if you said that in your point of view, that to you, both Pac and Marquez may have been cheating. But the thing is, you got exposed for having selective prejudice to one. Shows you have an agenda that doesn't fit your narrative. You can't see Marquez as a cheat, but you can see Pac as one with baseless assumptions. Shows your motive.

And that is why you have failed for the last time.

Again I leave you with this.


Like I said, even if you watch this video below a thousand times you will never get it. You are too naive and innocent. Stay there. You'll be safe in your bubble.

Stay naive kid.



Bonus facts you'll never get courtesy of D4

The difference between jump 3 weight classes in a just over a year, making weight for a catchweight and training by throwing rock and nutrition by drinking your own urine.
Compared to being at welter for years, and training with an elite sports and conditioning expert and taking the best designer steroids.

BONUS FLOYD FACTS

https://nyfights.com/worldwide/did-floyd-test-positive-three-times-or-not-it-matters/

As reported by this writer on MaxBoxing in Dec. 2012, information filtered through the drug-testing community on May 20, 2012 to the effect that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug. More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive three times and, after each positive test, USADA had given Floyd an inadvertent use waiver. These waivers, if they were in fact given, would have negated the need to test Floyd’s “B” samples. And because the “B” samples were never tested, a loophole in Mayweather’s USADA contract would have allowed testing to continue without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission……If Mayweather’s “A” sample tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug on one or more occasions and he was given a waiver by USADA that concealed this fact from the Nevada State Athletic Commission, his opponent, and the public, it could contribute to a scandal that undermines the already-shaky public confidence in boxing.





By order of the court. Due to the lawyers of Pacquiao requesting to release Floyd's failed drug tests. Floyd has no choice but to pay Manny for defaming him. Who's been caught red handed here? If you are clean you don't have to pay, but Floyd paid.. This is academic.

https://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/8399517/floyd-mayweather-jr-ordered-pay-114k-manny-pacquiao-defamation-case

LAS VEGAS -- A federal judge has ordered boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. to pay about $114,000 for avoiding questioning from rival fighter Manny Pacquiao's lawyers in a defamation case.

[Spoon23]

just a matter of two different opinions I watched the fight and was biased because of my financial stake in Pac-Man and was clearly convinced he lost the fight .Just like Canelo vs GGG everybody has different views .

I guess you didn't realize the constant intentional fouling Floyd did that night which was against the Queensberry rules that he got away with. In boxing you dodge, duck, bob and weave. You don't hug yourself to avoid a punch that's foul. That my friend is why you got disillusioned of what truly happened. Floyd won by hugging and running his way to fa6sville. That was the worst performance in a superfight ever. In Floyd's own words, "Bank Robbery baby!"

Mind you, Floyd was hugging and running from an injured shoulder Pacquiao. How pathetic is that?

You don't prevent an opponent from countering by hugging. That's just not boxing. too much fouling by Floyd and not a single point deduction from Bayless tsk tsk tsk... Stick and move NOT stick and hug Floyd. Don't change the game lol

https://********/jUDX5vZ7GeQ



The boos in every Floyd Mayweather hug caught in this footage only shows how boxing fans feel in their frustration of what is an example of what not to do in a super fight of this magnitude.

@1:15 - "Keep running Floyd. Keep running. You can do it!"

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Here's an education video about the Queensberry Rules of boxing.

What not to do in boxing:

Number 2 rule : NO wrestling or HUGGING allowed @ 0:39

[ShoulderRoll]

First of all, that is not my premise. Don't put words in my mouth so you can make sense to your being NAIVE. That is your argument that just because Floyd never failed a drug test (he actually did 3 failed drug test) he should always be considered clean. Just as Marquez never failed a drug test so in your own words these guys should be considered clean coz they didn't get caught. That's how shallow or gullible you are to be fooled that easily. So many red flags that you can't see, but like I said, you're either ignorant or you just ignoring the facts that surrounds these men. Stay gullible my friend. Ignorance is Bliss.

No, actually I said that there were red flags around Pacquiao.

But because he never failed a test you want to ignore those red flags.

That's fine...but then you should ignore the red flags around Marquez too. Because he never failed a test either.

Capisce?

[Spoon23]

No, actually I said that there were red flags around Pacquiao.

But because he never failed a test you want to ignore those red flags.

That's fine...but then you should ignore the red flags around Marquez too. Because he never failed a test either.

Capisce?

No, no capisce. If I follow your way of thinking..You can see red flags that you think Pac is a cheat, but you isolate the fact you can't see that Marquez and Floyd are the once who have more concrete red flags, true facts to back up their cheating ways, thus making you a selective biased fanboi. If you told me, you see those 3 boxers as probable cheats, I wouldn't have any problem with your opinion, hence, your defense is obviously flawed, you can only see one way, which only shows how fuvked up your argument is.. Which tells me, you are,either naive or dumb as fuvk That I can't respect your way of thinking. Like I said stay naive kid. You've fuvked up too many times in here. Your like a man infected with a Corona virus, but in your case you've been a dead man walking a long time ago. Stay down lolololololol


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https://nyfights.com/worldwide/did-floyd-test-positive-three-times-or-not-it-matters/

As reported by this writer on MaxBoxing in Dec. 2012, information filtered through the drug-testing community on May 20, 2012 to the effect that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug. More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive three times and, after each positive test, USADA had given Floyd an inadvertent use waiver. These waivers, if they were in fact given, would have negated the need to test Floyd’s “B” samples. And because the “B” samples were never tested, a loophole in Mayweather’s USADA contract would have allowed testing to continue without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission……If Mayweather’s “A” sample tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug on one or more occasions and he was given a waiver by USADA that concealed this fact from the Nevada State Athletic Commission, his opponent, and the public, it could contribute to a scandal that undermines the already-shaky public confidence in boxing.





By order of the court. Due to the lawyers of Pacquiao requesting to release Floyd's failed drug tests. Floyd has no choice but to pay Manny for defaming him. Who's been caught red handed here? If you are clean you don't have to pay, but Floyd paid.. This is academic.

https://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/8399517/floyd-mayweather-jr-ordered-pay-114k-manny-pacquiao-defamation-case

LAS VEGAS -- A federal judge has ordered boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. to pay about $114,000 for avoiding questioning from rival fighter Manny Pacquiao's lawyers in a defamation case.

[ShoulderRoll]

No, no capisce. If I follow your way of thinking..You can see red flags that you think Pac is a cheat, but you isolate the fact you can't see that Marquez and Floyd are the once who have more concrete red flags, true facts to back up their cheating ways, thus making you a selective biased fanboi. If you told me, you see those 3 boxers as probable cheats, I wouldn't have any problem with your opinion, hence, your defense is obviously flawed, you can only see one way, which only shows how fuvked up your argument is.. Which tells me, you are,either naive or dumb as fuvk That I can't respect your way of thinking. Like I said stay naive kid. You've fuvked up too many times in here. Your like a man infected with a Corona virus, but in your case you've been a dead man walking a long time ago. Stay down lolololololol


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I'm not the only one that sees red flags around Pacquiao so don't make this about me. Other people had su****ions about him too, especially after he refused random blood and urine testing in 2009.

You don't like the fact that Marquez never failed a drug test. That is not my fault but it happens to be a true statement.