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  • Originally posted by LarryX.... View Post
    guy was obsessed and left soon as Pac retired
    The also said he wasn’t Filipino and followed boxing.
    some other *******ed posters vanished after pac retired!

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    • Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

      Hmmm, I’ve always love Pac period. That said, Mayweather isn’t my favorite boxer BUT I sure can APPRECIATE his skills. He outhustled, out landed and made pac miss a lot during their fight. He also controlled the TEMPO of the fight. He won the fight. Now move on.
      Few people in here understand boxing. They are no different than football fans. They just need a reason to crush on men and drink beer.
      funny thing is, pac did beat him. I remember watching the entire fight in slow motion (the connects) and indeed, Floyd is getting a lot of freebees that don't even connect or shouldn't even be considered punches at some points.

      People continue to live in denial though, After pac fought Bradley I expected Floyd to land his right cross a lot more later in the fight, but he never did, he never got off. He played it safe and really played keep away.

      It actually surprised me, that the fight was so slow and technical and how confused Floyd looked, esp with his dad losing his **** in the corner. We needed a rematch though, as this fight could have just as easily been ruled a draw.

      People keep responding with opinions on the fight, but remember ALL THE compubox CONNECTS ARE IN SLOW MOTION on youtube, so there isn't actually much to argue about - that's what surprises me - Floyd actually lost the fight if its judged numerically or damagewise. The only way he wins it is if you use the "take the champs belt" idea which never get's used ever anymore. Or you weigh ring generalship above anything else - because Floyds long limbs forced Pacquiao to be the pursuing fighters for 12 rounds. I personally don't weigh that attribute before damage though.
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      • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

        funny thing is, pac did beat him. I remember watching the entire fight in slow motion (the connects) and indeed, Floyd is getting a lot of freebees that don't even connect or shouldn't even be considered punches at some points.

        People continue to live in denial though, After pac fought Bradley I expected Floyd to land his right cross a lot more later in the fight, but he never did, he never got off. He played it safe and really played keep away.

        It actually surprised me, that the fight was so slow and technical and how confused Floyd looked, esp with his dad losing his **** in the corner. We needed a rematch though, as this fight could have just as easily been ruled a draw.

        People keep responding with opinions on the fight, but remember ALL THE compubox CONNECTS ARE IN SLOW MOTION on youtube, so there isn't actually much to argue about - that's what surprises me - Floyd actually lost the fight if its judged numerically or damagewise. The only way he wins it is if you use the "take the champs belt" idea which never get's used ever anymore. Or you weigh ring generalship above anything else - because Floyds long limbs forced Pacquiao to be the pursuing fighters for 12 rounds. I personally don't weigh that attribute before damage though.
        Opinions are like as$h0les. Everybody has one.
        I though it was close fight but Mayweather edged him by controlling the pace and engagments. Pacquiao missed quite a bit even though he threw more.

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        • Fluid lost to Castillo, De Le Hoya, Maidana and Pacquiao to be honest.
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          • Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

            Opinions are like as$h0les. Everybody has one.
            I though it was close fight but Mayweather edged him by controlling the pace and engagments. Pacquiao missed quite a bit even though he threw more.
            I really low key thought floyd was gonna put on a better performance. Because between the 2, i considered Pacquiao to be in a worse part of his career than Floyd. Forget age, Pacquiao was knocked out by Marquez and had since then lost momentum, he had also been in many many wars and rough fights.

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            • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

              funny thing is, pac did beat him. I remember watching the entire fight in slow motion (the connects) and indeed, Floyd is getting a lot of freebees that don't even connect or shouldn't even be considered punches at some points.

              People continue to live in denial though, After pac fought Bradley I expected Floyd to land his right cross a lot more later in the fight, but he never did, he never got off. He played it safe and really played keep away.

              It actually surprised me, that the fight was so slow and technical and how confused Floyd looked, esp with his dad losing his **** in the corner. We needed a rematch though, as this fight could have just as easily been ruled a draw.

              People keep responding with opinions on the fight, but remember ALL THE compubox CONNECTS ARE IN SLOW MOTION on youtube, so there isn't actually much to argue about - that's what surprises me - Floyd actually lost the fight if its judged numerically or damagewise. The only way he wins it is if you use the "take the champs belt" idea which never get's used ever anymore. Or you weigh ring generalship above anything else - because Floyds long limbs forced Pacquiao to be the pursuing fighters for 12 rounds. I personally don't weigh that attribute before damage though.
              Agreed that there isn't much to discuss. Slow motion clearly shows Manny outlanded Floyd by a nearly 2:1 ratio.

              Quality of punches landed also goes to Manny. Floyd exclusively landed jabs, whereas Manny actually hurt Floyd at least twice.

              Manny fought with 1 arm.

              Floyd was conclusively proven to have used peds.

              Only clueless Floyd fans still insist he won, although I doubt most of them actually believe it deep down.

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              • Originally posted by Toyman View Post

                Agreed that there isn't much to discuss. Slow motion clearly shows Manny outlanded Floyd by a nearly 2:1 ratio.

                Quality of punches landed also goes to Manny. Floyd exclusively landed jabs, whereas Manny actually hurt Floyd at least twice.

                Manny fought with 1 arm.

                Floyd was conclusively proven to have used peds.

                Only clueless Floyd fans still insist he won, although I doubt most of them actually believe it deep down.
                I would have preferred a draw. It was a very lack lister bout.

                won’t talk about peds, I think pac was on them as well - but had long since burnt out by the time he stepped in with Floyd.

                I do agree though, if we go by modern scoring - pacquiao should have beat Floyd. Floyd really didn’t land a whole lot of anything. Lots of suspect connects or non connects being counted. Almost nothing landed flush, (maybe actually nothing). Pacquiao at least landed and did some damage, even amongst some od the sloppy Flurries. In round 3 or 4 he actually tagged Floyd multiple times. His dad was freaking out. Commentary = probably talking about Floyd.

                oacquiao was def on peds though, so are many others

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                • I can’t open the links that you share kindly can you send this again…​

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                  • It's always who the announcers say won.

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                    • Originally posted by lamarclark09 View Post
                      I can’t open the links that you share kindly can you send this again…​
                      Spoon23 pretended not to be. Filipino *******
                      then I was on the pinoy lounge and sho nuff spoon23 was there.
                      I took out Rath and @travesty definitely crushed his share.

                      long time ago…

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