Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[D4thincarnation]

The Marquez Pacquiao faced in their 4th fight was a different beast to the one Mayweather faced a few years earlier.


Most men will struggle to put on muscles mass naturally after 35, let alone as Marquez did, who is a pro athlete and already in peak physical condition.

[ShoulderRoll]

I wasn't asking the commission if he was clean or not you dimwit. What I was asking from you, is your OWN opinion if you think he is clean in your point of view without basing it according to the commission but on how you see him. It's a simple YES or NO.

I can tell you have a huge problem with reading comprehension.

Without basing it according to the commission many people believe Pacquiao wasn't clean, either. Especially during the time that Floyd was asking him to do stricter drug testing but he refused.

So if you give the su****ions about Marquez credibility then you have to give the su****ions about Pacquiao credibility too.

Just be consistent.

[tyger]

This thread is still going?

[Zaroku]

The Marquez Pacquiao faced in their 4th fight was a different beast to the one Mayweather faced a few years earlier.


Most men will struggle to put on muscles mass naturally after 35, let alone as Marquez did, who is a pro athlete and already in peak physical condition.

You got that right, I used to power lift, and chit, but I am old now, if I push my old azz body, I lose body fat, and mucle, no matter what I eat. etc.. I need roids or something..

I luckily have muscle memory, but that isn't enough. time isn't on my side.

[Zaroku]

This thread is still going?

Spoon wants to show floyd cheated pac, and a one armed pac still beat a prime Floyd in the eyes of spain, brasil, or some innuit huts at the north pole.

[D4thincarnation]

You got that right, I used to power lift, and chit, but I am old now, if I push my old azz body, I lose body fat, and mucle, no matter what I eat. etc.. I need roids or something..

I luckily have muscle memory, but that isn't enough. time isn't on my side.

Same for everyman.

After 30 your t levels start to drop off, by 35 it is really noticible.

So you lose your muscle building hormones.

So for a guy around 40 who has been training hard his whole life, to put on all that extra muscle mass in a short space of time is highly unlikely without some extra help.


Hire Memo as your PT and you will see your gain go up rapidly.

[Zaroku]

Same for everyman.

After 30 your t levels start to drop off, by 35 it is really noticible.

So you lose your muscle building hormones.

So for a guy around 40 who has been training hard his whole life, to put on all that extra muscle mass in a short space of time is highly unlikely without some extra help.


Hire Memo as your PT and you will see your gain go up rapidly.

my rich buddies can hire him.. i am good with my age, and my appointed time... I am a sinful God fearing man..

the older I get.. the more God i seek.. i do not think tfr it is a loss of testosterone... .sure i have lost some.. but after caring for my gand kids... i got nothing.. no fight in me... i got soft and weak.....my last words... i love GOD, and rest with my ancestors.. in israel...perfect...ending to a nobody like me.. perfect.

[Unified18]

Yes, I believe Marquez was clean if we go by what the commission testing said.

And Pacquiao fans always wanted to let the commission do it's job, right?

On another note: Bob Arum has admitted that Pacquiao ducked Terence Crawford when they were both with Top Rank. I found that very interesting because it sheds new light on Manny's pattern of avoiding certain styles throughout his career.


"Manny Pacquiao would never fight Crawford, and that goes back to when I was promoting Pacquiao. Pacquiao versus Crawford is not a very competitive fight. Forget Pacquiao. We offered Pacquiao a sh-tload of money to fight Crawford and he didn’t want to fight. But I was promoting him, so I wasn’t going to put it on Manny, I put it on me. I was covering for Pacquiao."

https://www.boxingscene.com/terence-...b-arum--145114

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWNV8GG-Is

When every one though Pac was done as a legit, top fighter in the div, Arum was going on how irrelevent, the Haymon signed Pac is at the present and how he saves Pac by not making him fight Crawford. Fast forward to Pac proving to the world that his still a killer in the div with a W over Keith and now Arum suddenly changes his narrative to Pac (who is still a killer) being the 1st to duck Bud like everyone else in PBC are doing today.

Arum is a snake, he'd say whatever suits him and his fighter at the moment regardless of how much truth is in the statement, I wouldn't take anything he say without more than a couple grain of salt.

[Zaroku]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWNV8GG-Is

When every one though Pac was done as a legit, top fighter in the div, Arum was going on how irrelevent, the Haymon signed Pac is at the present and how he saves Pac by not making him fight Crawford. Fast forward to Pac proving to the world that his still a killer in the div with a W over Keith and now Arum suddenly changes his narrative to Pac (who is still a killer) being the 1st to duck Bud like everyone else in PBC are doing today.


PAC is great.. the best ever.. he can KO space aliens, and cure cancer, solve world hunger.. ok ok ok..

can i sell you chinese made PAC love toys.. how many will you buy..

Arum is a snake, he'd say whatever suits him and his fighter at the moment regardless of how much truth is in the statement, I wouldn't take anything he say without more than a couple grain of salt.

PAC beat a beat nik.. i love pac... he has done great things for the filipino people in the Philippines.. I am not a Filipino.. but... I grew up with filipino people and my daughter is *** filipina...lives in Makati, has a driver to take her to school..

So... a *** bob.. put pac on the map, hyped him big time.. and now.. bob says negative things about a pac who beat a hippie... pac is great, but he gets smashed fighting young lions..

i do not want to see pac get hit hard.. i am a die hard pac fan... but i bet money.. real money that pac gets crushed by the young lions.. and I won't watch that ..... i am not wanting to see that...

i hate flo moes.. and pac tards... i love boxing.. grew up fighting.. my grand father was a fighter.. my sisters fight..

PAC is great... Pac plows all kinda fine filipina wimmin.. has kids he does not acknowlege are his.. that is mexican style..

[Spoon23]

Without basing it according to the commission many people believe Pacquiao wasn't clean, either. Especially during the time that Floyd was asking him to do stricter drug testing but he refused.

So if you give the su****ions about Marquez credibility then you have to give the su****ions about Pacquiao credibility too.

Just be consistent.

Oh for fuvk sake I ask you several times not basing it on the commission but to your OWN OPINION and you still for the hundredth time deflect like a biatch move and throw the blame game at Pacquiao. The Question was is Marquez clean in YOUR OWN OPINION WITHOUT BASING IT ON THE COMMISSION, and your answer, IF I think Marquez takes, then Pac is???

It only works IF I have su****ion on Pacquiao as well??? WTF? It's not my su****ion I'm asking you dimwit. I'm asking yours. You can't even answer a simple question. You obviously can't handle the truth.

And for what it's worth. If you are asking me if I have su****ions about Pac taking band substance. The answer will be NOPE, I don't have any doubt in my mind. Why? Simple. The reason Marquez is retired now. He took so much PEDs that his body is decomposing that he can not anymore perform at the highest level. Brittle bones, and weak muscles, Symptoms of using too much Steroids. It breaks down the body, thus, he is now retired and can no longer fight. On the other hand, Pac at age 40, is still in tip top shape evident to a clean athlete who takes care of his body the right way. A testament to his healthy living. IF Pac has been taking PEDs for years now, he won't last this long in this brutal sport, especially with his offensive style which relies on his physical prowess.

The fact @ 40 he can still dance and beat the crap at prime fighters in the highest levels of boxing, tells us how clean he is in keeping himself in shape the right way. So yeah, no su****ion at all about Pac, but can't say the same for Marquez.

SO AGAIN I ASK. DO YOU THINK MARQUEZ IS CLEAN IN YOUR OWN HUMBLE OPINION WITHOUT BASING IT ON THE COMMISSION? ARE YOU GOING TO FLAKE OUT AGAIN??

I think it's best to remind you. How Pacboy has ****d you again hahaha! I know, It's hard to accept it, but your boyfriend Floyd is a Rich Coward. You don't have to believe me. It's no speculation brother, He said it to himself. So accept that your HERO Floyd is a rich coward. You just have to live with the fact your fighter is *****. Floyd is a RICH COWARD he said it to himself Shouldroll

I'm gonna say no.

He agreed to fight Pacquiao in his prime and even offered a 50/50 purse split.

wrong. It was more important for people to think he was not ducking Manny than it was for him to actually just fight the man.

I know you wouldnt think he was a coward. Its hard for me not to think so given all the proof ive seen. But when Floyd himself says he is a coward...I gotta kind of take his word for it...